Casio also did it with the MZ-2000.

kbrkr..,

Does the Korg actually trigger the les. effect or does it use (patch velocity switching).., and when you hit the curve it triggers another patch that has a pre-programed les effect?

Older Roland models will do this..., can't recall the name of the patch but even my well dated RS-70 has a velocity switched organ patch that when triggered switches over to a sample with a faster les effect.

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kbrkr, on the Roland's, you can get to choose WHICH parts get affected by velocity, and by how much, either positively or negatively (have a part get QUIETER as you play louder, for instance).

You can't do that with a pedal... or actually, you can on a Roland, but you have to program it in fairly carefully in advance. Come to think of it, perhaps THAT'S the way to get parts in and out depending on volume..? Up for one set of Parts, down for another (in the middle for both!).

But it still isn't velocity controlled without the Dynamic arranger. A combination of BOTH approaches could offer some SEROUS variation on a basic style, having velocity switch some parts, and the expression pedal work others.... Hmmmm...

I also have a fair bit of trouble using the volume pedal if I play standing up... too busy working sustain and the arranger controls with the FC-7. At least this offers some of that control if you CAN'T use a pedal. And so many of us have this habit of riding up on the style parts by banging away on the RH. At least this gives the arranger the opportunity to level the playing field, even if WE don't realize it at the time

Yes they have it, but why in the world would you want to use it? It sounds so unnatural. It doesn't sound like the band is playing softer, it sounds like somebody is suddenly turning up and down the fader on the mixer...

Quoting Diki,
" Come to think of it, perhaps THAT'S the way to get parts in and out depending on volume..? Up for one set of Parts, down for another (in the middle for both!)."

You can do that on Tyros, have 1 or 2 parts set to come down in volume as another one(s) come up - all with just 1 pedal.
It's quite useful for changing say a BigBand full ensemble eg. based on Brass/Trumpet/Sax to a solo instrument by simultaneously fading out the first two while bringing the Sax up a bit. Just switching off the other 2 alone often doesn't do a good job, since it leaves the solo instrument at the ensemble level which may be lacking for a good solo. Creates quite a smooth effect transitioning back and forth at appropriate points in the song.

John

Ah yes but on the Roland (and others I suspect) it is actually note velocity we are talking about.

And this can be as subtle as you like, even to the degree of just reducing velocity by 2 or 3, which with the velocity switched layering of modern sounds you can also vary the actual timbre too.

So it's not simply a case of a volume pedal at all.

Dennis

Exactly Dennis wel explained....its all in the fingers

Yes, the foot pedal and Dynamic Arranger do a similar job, but in different ways... The footpedal strictly regulates volume alone, whereas the DA works with strictly velocities. There are subtle (or not so subtle) differences between the two, especially with those mentioned vel-switched sounds.

Drums particularly benefit from small amounts of it, as often it's not enough to make a gross change in the volume, but usually just a few ticks is enough to push kick and snare into harder hit velocities. More of a timbral change than a volume one. VERY drummer like (who can rimshot quite quietly, when they WANT to! )...

Yeah. Yamaha has it.All arrangers should have it by now

And the most important part of the Dynamic arranger feature playing is you have to KNOW HOW TO PLAY with that degree of feeling...its a style of playing all in itself let's not forget that shall we?