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#248478 - 11/16/08 11:44 AM Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
Dnj Offline
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxSumij_XuU&feature=related

What a great feature for a live player.

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#248479 - 11/16/08 12:10 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
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On most keyboards they call that the Volume pedal.
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#248480 - 11/16/08 12:16 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
Dnj Offline
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I dont think the VOL pedal can regulate the players feeling as accurate as this.

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#248481 - 11/16/08 12:36 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
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Yamaha has had dynamic accompaniment starting with the PSR-2000...it's on the Tyros1/2/3 and the later mid line PSR as well.

It is called "Style Touch"

The PSR-6700 also had it in a slightly different form, although it did basically the same thing...that was around 1990...it was called "Interactive Accompaniment".

I also encountered this type of feature on the Roland E-70,back when I did demos for them (around 1990 or earlier)...they called it "Arranger Velocity Level".

So it's been around for some time, although I don't tend to use it a great deal.

It must be on the E-60?

Ian
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#248482 - 11/16/08 12:39 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
It must be on the E-60?
Ian


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and a great players tool.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-16-2008).]

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#248483 - 11/16/08 12:54 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Dynamic Accomp as Technics did it, is quite different from what
we see/hear here.
How I miss that feature, when give a little extra punch to the
left hand (if thats' your choice), "the band" responded very nice.
Quite different and sure more real/live from the ordinary fills
we're used to.

The first brand who steal and add that function as well as the
Composer and Panememory functions from Technics, could easily be
my next Arranger Keyboard brand.

Cheers
GJ
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#248484 - 11/16/08 01:19 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
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Yes.., that's a great feature to have on any arranger. Even Casio did it years back.
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#248485 - 11/16/08 01:28 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
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Yep, Casio had it back in 1984 on the CT-6000...it was called "Super Accompaniment.

A buddy of mine used to sell them from his home...I eventually bought my CZ synths from him.

The CT-6000 also had velocity AND aftertouch.

No PCM drums unfortunately, but the style patterns were very useful and pretty good for the time, and it was a well made instrument.

I remember my favorite sound was one called "Chorus"...ethereal, eerie and pure.

Ian
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#248486 - 11/16/08 01:31 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
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Without the ability to edit it as to 'window' and hold parameters, it isn't quite as useful as it might be...

I'd also like to see something more in the way of being able to turn parts on or off completely, depending on velocity, as long as you have that 'hold' parameter adjustable, because playing hard constantly, just to maintain the backing level is quite tricky. That way, one part might be a gentle strum pattern, and another a hard strum pattern, and have the arranger choose between them based on velocity

It's a great idea, and particularly in conjunction with the velocity switched V-Drums, can be very effective, allowing you the ability to get your drummer to rimshot the snare only when YOU get loud, makes an already pretty live drum sound sound even better... but just a FEW user adjustable parameters could make it better, IMO.
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#248487 - 11/16/08 02:21 PM Re: Does Tyros 3 have DYNAMIC Accompaniment ?
kbrkr Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
On most keyboards they call that the Volume pedal.


Most organ players will regulate dynamics as good as this. It has become a lost art.

We have something similar on the Pa2xpro, hitting the keys harder will trigger the Leslie effect on Organ Patches. You can setup patches to trigger volume just as well.
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