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#246032 - 10/24/08 01:25 PM Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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#246033 - 10/24/08 01:35 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Please, tell me it's a joke...
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#246034 - 10/24/08 01:37 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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No Joke ......serious inquiries only please.

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#246035 - 10/24/08 01:40 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Whoa there, big guy. What has happened here? You were so in love with the e60 just a few days ago. You even swore off Yamahas forever. What's the reason for your quick switch?
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#246036 - 10/24/08 01:50 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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I must say I haven't been laughing so much in the last few months or so!...
that cannot be!
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#246037 - 10/24/08 02:45 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Here is an explanation..partly..

Donny is using a Harmony M, and the E-60 without a mixer /eq...when he cuts what he believes is too much bass on his Tapco Thump..it cuts the bass from his vocals..

He thinks his styles are varied, I suggested he take a look at the volume level of each of his programmed styles...maybe just lowering the volume on the arranger bass will be an easy fix..

OF course we all know that a real mixer is the answer when we are mixing 3 different sources..keyboard, laptop, and Harmony M...

BTW: this is why I "really" love the G70..besides total mixing including EQ, of mic/harmony, keyboard/ and audio input too..and all in one..I don't want to carry out board equipment....or as little as possible..I will haul the extra weight to be happy..


Any ideas to help Donny with a fix...email him...before he makes the biggest mistake and trades for a S900..
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#246038 - 10/24/08 02:49 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Based on the other post by Donny singing praise to the E-60.., I thought it was a keeper for him.
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#246039 - 10/24/08 03:03 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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What can anyone say to this ......

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#246040 - 10/24/08 03:27 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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You can love a keyboard at home, but on the job, under fire, is the real test, and it's giving him problems in his particular setup.
His loss will be somebody's gain!
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#246041 - 10/24/08 03:51 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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For your consideration I bought a nice little Tapco mixer cost $45 nice and small for the desktop. Maybe not for the gig.
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#246042 - 10/24/08 05:17 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Not sure, but I think someone just won on a $50 wager.

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#246043 - 10/24/08 06:06 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Why an S900?

Why not a G70?

Fran drags one around, and he's an old guy ...Donny's younger and stronger, so he shouldn't have any problems.

Then he would have, and I quote from Fran:"total mixing including EQ, of mic/harmony, keyboard/ and audio input too..and all in one."

Fran said he knows where there's a slew of G70s, so getting one shouldn't be hard, and Fran always gets a good price.

Problem solved.

Ian
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#246044 - 10/24/08 06:29 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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#246045 - 10/24/08 07:04 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Donny, Is this a serious offer, it does not seem like you. If you are serious e-mail me.

John C.

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#246046 - 10/24/08 07:51 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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I might be selling my s900 to put towards the T3. just bought it as a backup in May to my T2.

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#246047 - 10/24/08 08:46 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Originally posted by bruno123:

Donny, Is this a serious offer, it does not seem like you. If you are serious e-mail me.

John C.



Hi John you have mail...

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#246048 - 10/24/08 08:54 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Donny,

Its a shame the E60 is being a bit tricky.

FWIW, I reckon it would be better to simply add in an active mixer rather than regress to the S900, especially as the E60 is ticking all the right boxes.

Yes I know its a cost but it WILL fix this current issue.The Behringer (for example) entry models still have 2 XLR inputs phantom power AND active 3 band EQ on each channel.

I know its an expense, but if you pay about $45 (on Ebay) for one of the small Behringer mixers (not much bigger than the passive mixer you are using now) you could boost the bass on the vocal, whilst cutting it on everything else, as even these smaller mixers have 3 band EQ's on them.

From the info in the post, and based on what I THINK you are using, an active mixer is a must.

Dennis

PS: Donny hang in there with the E60..This problem IS fixable without having to "throw the baby out with the bathwater".

And as an afterthought... having one of these mixers would also allow you to run the Harmony M in stereo..I don't know if you have, but they sound even better in stereo!!



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#246049 - 10/24/08 09:59 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Send the $50 to my email account...

I could get rich doing this...

You see, when the larger portion of your show is MP3's, it really doesn't matter a whole lot what keyboard is propped up in front of you.

I recommend a Stylophone. No back problems whatsoever
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#246050 - 10/25/08 12:33 AM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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The issue is with those Thumps.
They are designed to be Bass heavy and not as suited to vocals insomuch as DJ work. Not exactly flat speakers. Hence the name Thump, You really notice it when A/B with the Mackie SRMs. But the price is right at $700 a pair is half the cost of the Mackies.

You should be able to use the EQ on the Tapcos to find a happy medium though. Unless you really like the Yamaha soundset.

None of these arrangers have decent mike pre amps, and the Behringer 's Xenex are not much better. Th TC has a decent pre Amp..but if you are running it through a keyboard you erase mike input the advantage, You really need aux inputs for the TC,

Heck jump start the economy....get a Tyros 3 and a pair of Bose LT1s
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#246051 - 10/25/08 04:46 AM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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i am not sure i've understood corectly... donny does not use a mixer on live performance?!

but how's that even possible? hm...

well, i guess nothing it's for sure, at least until every and each one interested in here has the chance to test the E60 for himself.
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#246052 - 10/25/08 09:48 AM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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#246053 - 10/25/08 10:02 AM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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adimatis,

Really don't need a mixer. The TC Harmony M connects to the Mic/Line in of the keyboard. The MIDI files are fired from the laptop to the keyboard's host/midi connection. MP3s are fired from the laptop's headphone out directly to one of the the amp's auxiliary inputs. The keyboard's standard audio output is fired directly into the amp's main inputs. The phantom power required for a mic comes directly from the TC Harmony-M.

You can use a mixer and do the same thing, but that's one more piece of equipment to lug around and a lot more wires to plug in. The end result is the same.

Gary
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#246054 - 10/25/08 10:26 AM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:
adimatis,

Really don't need a mixer. The TC Harmony M connects to the Mic/Line in of the keyboard. The MIDI files are fired from the laptop to the keyboard's host/midi connection. MP3s are fired from the laptop's headphone out directly to one of the the amp's auxiliary inputs. The keyboard's standard audio output is fired directly into the amp's main inputs. The phantom power required for a mic comes directly from the TC Harmony-M.

You can use a mixer and do the same thing, but that's one more piece of equipment to lug around and a lot more wires to plug in. The end result is the same.

Gary


But he is not using an Amp if he has the Tapco Thumps. They are powered Speakers. In that regard there can be a mixing and EQ issue from all those inputs being "mixed" on a keyboard then through two main line outs.
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#246055 - 10/25/08 12:37 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kingfrog:
But he is not using an Amp if he has the Tapco Thumps. They are powered Speakers. In that regard there can be a mixing and EQ issue from all those inputs being "mixed" on a keyboard then through two main line outs.


Though I'm not familiar with DNJ's current system, most powered speakers have more than a single input, As for mixing within the keyboard, this has never been a problem for anyone using Yamaha's PSR or Tyros series of keyboards. I assume a similar system is used on most of the Korg and Roland machines as well.

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#246056 - 10/25/08 01:15 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
Though I'm not familiar with DNJ's current system, most powered speakers have more than a single input, As for mixing within the keyboard, this has never been a problem for anyone using Yamaha's PSR or Tyros series of keyboards. I assume a similar system is used on most of the Korg and Roland machines as well.

Gary



Im curious. Which powered speakers have multiple inputs. We sell Mackies, Tapcos, Crate ,Yorkville, Yamaha, Alto.Not one in the bunch has more than one input. Some have a choice of input whether speakon,TRS or/and XLR but none have the ability to mix two signals..

Perhaps you are referring to the new Fishman all in one system..

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#246057 - 10/25/08 01:39 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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JBL eon and Peavey PRP both have 2 or 3 inputs with 2 or three separate volume controls.
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#246058 - 10/25/08 02:51 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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Originally posted by mikeathome1:
JBL eon and Peavey PRP both have 2 or 3 inputs with 2 or three separate volume controls.



Well there ya go..I thought I was going to go through the first day in my life where I did no learn anything...Thanks.
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#246059 - 10/26/08 12:43 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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This is just too funny!

Some of the members here must be marketing experts!

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#246060 - 10/26/08 02:14 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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You 'buy to try' most of the stuff available, arrangers, PA gear, etc., and pretty soon you know all this stuff...

I am looking forward to Donny's glowing review of a Wersi, next... (mind you, I'm not sure how easy it will be to get rid of it )

Anyone remember 'The boy who cried Wolf!'?
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#246061 - 10/26/08 03:23 PM Re: Trade Roland E60 76 keys for Yamaha S900
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The entire Barbetta series has multiple inputs, Bose has 4 on their L1 and newer systems, and the Peavey KB systems do as well.

Gary
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