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#245187 - 10/17/08 05:07 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
This is good news, for a minute I thought what was Yamaha thinking, Ian thanks for clarifying that!



Yes Steve...they perform the same functions as the up/down buttons...the display will remember the last mixer function you were on when you press Mixing Console again(after you've returned to the main display page)

They also work very well with the organ flutes...not exactly like clicky drawbars, but very smooth and accurate...no wobble, and you can grab a bunch at a time to shape the sound.

Ian
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#245188 - 10/17/08 06:23 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
This may seem like a rather naive question, Chony, but why would you spend so much money without at least trying the keyboard out and dicovering it might not suit your needs.

If you did try it out, then the less than satisfactory drums(your opinion)and sliders(again, your opinion)would have been immediately obvious.

What gives buddy? Ian



In following Ians reply Chony....why give up on a KORG Pa2x which is definitly more professionaly feature packed for the gigging musician then Tyros1,2,or3?

Yea What gives ?

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#245189 - 10/17/08 06:29 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
ianmcnll Offline
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Dnj:

why give up on a KORG Pa2x which is definitly more professionaly feature packed for the gigging musician then Tyros1,2,or3?


Why aren't you using one, Donny?

You're a professional gigging musician aren't you?

What gives, buddy?

Ian
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#245190 - 10/18/08 01:13 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Yikes... getting hot in here

Has the economy hit the price of Valium, already...?
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#245191 - 10/18/08 01:22 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Diki:
Yikes... getting hot in here

Has the economy hit the price of Valium, already...?


I think that's why Donny plays naked....

I just hope there's no mix up between the Valium and the Viagra.

We could be up against some stiff competition.

Ian
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#245192 - 10/18/08 03:55 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
Wow, a brand spanking new keyboard with all new sounds and SA2 articulations and they are already looking for new sounds in a Voice Pack???

I don't get it?

What's missing from the T3?

Also, to address the slider issues on the T3, what good is going into the Tyros 3 Mixer and then using the sliders??? The Pa2 just let's you press a button to use sliders for various functionality. Yamaha's implementation sort of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
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#245193 - 10/18/08 04:56 PM Re: Tyros 3 voice packs question
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 736
Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
The sliders on the new T3 are not really well implemented. Yes, you can adjust the volume of any voice part, whether in the right hand, left hand, style or midi. BUT, you can only do so by going into mixer and all these parts are on different pages.

This is no where near as good as the Korg sliders. My pa1X allows me to use the sliders to adjust upper 1, 2 and 3 along with the style bass, drums and percussion all easily at your finger tips without paging through menus. On my new T3, you can never be on a page that will allow you to adjust all those parameters all together.

These are the volumes you need to control the most. But, if you are on the mixer page to control R1,2 or 3, you can not control any parts of the style volume from that page. You must change to a different page in the mixer to get to the style volume parts for the sliders to control. And, that has to be done with repeated button pushes, You can not cycle back and forth between the two pages easily and directly. The Mixing Console Panel Part (R1, 2 and 3) is follwed by the Mixing Console Style Part (style volumes) but it follows with Mixing Console Song Channel parts 1-8 and then Mixing Console Song Channel 9-16. So you have to do a lot of button pushing to cycle thorugh all four pages.

When you are on the Mixing Console page, you can not see what voices are being used for the R1,2 and 3 parts. You wouldn't want to change the OTS while on the Mixing page or you have no idea what R1 will come up (unless you check it out in advance).

All of the Yamaha sliders should be made so they can be assignable to any part, if you wish, and they will hold that assignment. That's how the Korg sliders work and they are much more useful. The T3 has only one slider that is assignable and there are only about 10 things that you can assign to it. For me, none of them are really very useful. It can be assigned as follows: Off, Keyboard Volume, Harmony Volume, Song Volume, MultiPad Volume, Hard Disk Player Volume, Mic Volume, Mic Reverb Depth, and Vocal Harmony Balance. So even the assignable slider can not be permanently assigned to say, drums. I think Yamaha could vastly improve this.

Tom G.
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