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#243033 - 09/21/08 07:17 AM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
mr9000 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/05
Posts: 318
Sorry bill just seen your post now,all you needed was a $2 gasket behind the element.My 33Gal water heater is from the early 70's and going strong.

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#243034 - 09/21/08 09:32 AM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
JCkeeys Offline
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 584
Loc: St. James,New York,USA
Bill ... It may have been the gasket?? But considering the latest and greatest options you have with the unit you purchased and the price!!! "Ya "Still" Done Good!!!

[This message has been edited by JCkeeys (edited 09-21-2008).]

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#243035 - 09/22/08 07:35 PM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 2202
Loc: Dayton, OH USA
Update!

Installed the new water heater and once we had the old one removed, we could get a really good look at it. Turns out it was purchased/put in back in 1975. 28 years of service from a unit like that one isn't too shabby, is it?



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#243036 - 09/22/08 08:14 PM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
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Originally posted by Bill in Dayton:


The unit sells for $339.99 plus tax....We purchased one that was a floor model and got it for $283.91 out the door...So, we saved almost $50 bucks...



A man after my own heart...

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Mike
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#243037 - 09/22/08 09:27 PM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
btweengigs Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 2204
Loc: Florida, USA
Bill
It's good to know I am not the only musician here in hot water. Congrats!
Eddie

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#243038 - 09/23/08 06:17 AM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
28 years of service from a waterheater is 28 damn good years You'll never find one today that'll last that long. These things are slapped together so cheaply today (even the high-end ones).., because THEY ALL are using cheaper and lower quality parts imported from other countries. The gaskets are of poor quality.., metals used are weaker. Boy I miss the days when they built things to last.
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#243039 - 09/23/08 09:09 PM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
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Originally posted by squeak_D:
Boy I miss the days when they built things to last.


Amen to that!

There is a term used as to why manufacturers make their products in the way they do. You've probably heard the term before: "planned obsolescence". Because technology is advancing in such a rapid fashion, products are mostly constructed in an inferior fashion because manufacturers realize in a few years down the road the technology will have advanced to such a degree as to make the former product(s) now obsolete.

Example: Tyros1/2 and the new Tyros3. The Tyros 1/2 has USB 1.1 whereas the Tyros3 now has USB 2.0. The Tyros1/2 may last for several years (or maybe not, you never really know really) but now that the Tyros3 has USB 2.0 it has now made the Tyros 1/2 obsolete when comparing them to the Tyros3 with its USB 2.0.

Inferior materials and parts are used on most all electronic products made today for essentially the same reason. That is, technology will have further advanced in such a way in just a few scant years that it makes most, if not all, of those electronic products made just a few short years ago obsolete in the process. And because manufacturers plan for this certain and obvious eventuality i.e. "technology advancing", lesser quality materials and parts are used and play a major role in this grand scheme. This way, manufacturers keep increasing their bottom line by continuing to make new products that will meet and supply the consumer's needs and demand for these new technological advancements. But since technology advances so rapidly, manufacturers actually have a dollar incentive to use inferior parts and materials since, in reality, they want you to continue to buy the "new" products that replace the obsolete products once the new product(s) comes out. And the cycle repeats itself over and over again every few years.

Fifty, forty or even thirty five years ago etc., products were made to last because technology was basically at a snails pace (when comparing to today), and therefore higher quality parts and materials were constructed and used so as to last a much longer time between the slower intervals in advancements of technology.

Best,
Mike


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#243040 - 09/24/08 11:55 AM Re: (OT) Water Heater Question...
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
A product ( Keyboards included) is NOT obsolete...as long as it does for you the job you bought it for.

The reason the companys today build cheep crap is to make more money, beat the competition (a lot more of it today) and so you will need to buy a new one-not fix the old one (planned replacement).

A new one might be a little more efficient, new features etc...but if the old one still heats water...you don't need a new one...even though you might want one (T3, PA3XPRO, G80 etc.)

Digital cameras are a good example... I had a Nikon D80, then a D200, then a D300...did I really need more than the D80...NO, I wanted the newer camera so I bought it. The D80, was not obslete, there were just newer neater ones, The D80 still took great photos.

28 Years...WOW...Must have been make in the USA! Not China.

You installed it yourself...your my kind of guy! Bravo!

Lee
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