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#241228 - 08/28/08 08:40 AM No more funny pictures over T3 keys
kbrkr Offline
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I noticed Yamaha removed the GM Drum kit pictures from the top of the keys of the Tyros 3.

Does this mean the T3 has finally growed'up!



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#241229 - 08/28/08 09:18 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Fran Carango Offline
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How about that Al?

Maybe Yamaha figured if you are capable enough to buy the top of the line....you probably know the standard GM drum map by now...
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#241230 - 08/28/08 09:21 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Fran Carango Offline
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Maybe Yamaha re mapped the drums too..That would be good news...No dreaded hand clap..
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#241231 - 08/28/08 09:23 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Fran Carango Offline
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Speaking of strange drum sounds..I wish Roland would get rid of that Latin drum sound..that sounds like a barking dog..
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#241232 - 08/28/08 09:26 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
kbrkr Offline
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LOL, I know what you mean. I've never heard the Roland Latin sound, but the Yamaha drums used to drive me nuts. Besides, with my crappy eyesight, I couldn't even read those old markings on the keybed. For all know, they could have said; Tuttankamen wears army boots.
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#241233 - 08/28/08 09:44 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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Wow, they removed the little pics! Very good move IMO. I'm confused though. I remember a few years ago I brought this issue up wondering why Yamaha did this with their pro arrangers, but I was met with a lot of hostility over it, and some people got pretty offended.

Anywho..., good to see Yamaha has taken them off.
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#241234 - 08/28/08 10:08 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
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How's little Billy or Katie supposed to learn to play the drums on their Tyros 3 without those cute little symbols? After all, the majority of Tyros 3's will reside in the living rooms of small children throughout the world and not on a professional stage or in a concert hall.

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#241235 - 08/28/08 10:25 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
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Ohhh boy..., here we go **Squeak is taking cover as the poo will soon begin to fly**
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#241236 - 08/28/08 11:31 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Fran Carango Offline
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Good point Lee..

Our little ones are only allowed to play..the G70 and Media Station...If they are very good..maybe the DX7..


BTW: I bought another antique..Uncle Dave played one of these for a couple years..He said he loved it...any bets he knocks it now...

To be announced later...or guess it before hand..
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#241237 - 08/28/08 11:59 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
cassp Offline
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I wish all of us would stop thinking that TOTL arrangers are made for us. First of all, we're on the wrong continent. Secondly, most of us think we're pros; again not the target audience.
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#241238 - 08/28/08 12:54 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
kbrkr Offline
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Ok Fran, what did you buy this time? Let me guess a Fender Rhodes? (I actually want one of those).


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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Good point Lee..

Our little ones are only allowed to play..the G70 and Media Station...If they are very good..maybe the DX7..


BTW: I bought another antique..Uncle Dave played one of these for a couple years..He said he loved it...any bets he knocks it now...

To be announced later...or guess it before hand..
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#241239 - 08/28/08 01:20 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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HA HA! Diki...., I remember a day when it was Fran that held the title of trouble maker Me, Taike, and a few others were his goon-squad I guess.
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#241240 - 08/28/08 01:30 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Fran Carango Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by squeak_D:
HA HA! Diki...., I remember a day when it was Fran that held the title of trouble maker Me, Taike, and a few others were his goon-squad I guess.


You mean you guys are no longer my goon squad?..
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#241241 - 08/28/08 01:37 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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I'm still a goon, but now a solo goon
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#241242 - 08/28/08 01:52 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
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I miss the Goons...
http://www.thegoonshow.net/

It's a shame they never got as popular over in the US as they were at home. Monty Python would never have existed if it weren't for these guys
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#241243 - 08/28/08 01:57 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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Fran, do you have a current email for Taike? I havnen't heard from him in a while.
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#241244 - 08/28/08 02:11 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
captain Russ Offline
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Squeak, Taike is currently relocating to somewhere else in the Orient. i heard from him a week or so ago. He sent me photos og "Little Wolf", his young son. I'll locate his message tomorrow to see if he will have a valid email address soon. I'll let you know...Have had some trouble recently reaching him.


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#241245 - 08/28/08 05:45 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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Thanks! I have a pic of his little boy that he sent me when he was first born
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#241246 - 08/28/08 07:34 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
zuki Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
but apparently, I'm the source of this entire forum's negative approach..


Well, you asked for it
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#241247 - 08/28/08 10:17 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
to the genesys Offline
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Well I remember a certain member on this forum stating that Yamaha would not do anything major to their next TOTL arranger. The thinking was that why mess with perfection and Yamaha would make the “next logical step up”. That member also asserts that the Yamaha TOTL arranger is made for the home market who does not know anything about electronic music that is why Yamaha makes everything out of the box dummy proof.

To me, if they are eliminating pictures of the drum mappings, that is a major change to the dummy market that most persons on this forum feel that Yamaha is targeting
So much for the “next logical step up” argument.
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#241248 - 08/28/08 11:38 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
Diki Offline


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Maybe it's a new 'feature'

Perhaps there are little lights under the keys, that show you what each key's drum sound is... and can light up to show you where to press the next note for your 'home' rendition of "Born Free' for the family?
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#241249 - 08/29/08 05:30 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
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I have probably posted this before, but for those who have not read it...

Nashville Music Row uses Yamaha arranger workstations for their writers when they brainstorm, and serious professionals like Melissa Manchester, Martina McBride, David Paich(Toto), David Bryant(Bon Jovi) and others use Yamaha arrangers as writing tools.

These are just a few that I am aware of, but it does show that Yamaha arrangers aren't just used by "home" players.

Coffee is brewing for those who have not awakened and had a sniff.

Ian

PS...anyone know of any pros who use Korg or Roland "home" arrangers like the PA-800 or G70/E-80(other than our own SZ'ers)..it would be interesting to know.
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#241250 - 08/29/08 05:42 AM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
squeak_D Offline
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Arrangers may get snubbed at times, but the reality is more pros actually have these things than most people realize. Many dihard synth owners have arrangers too.., sadly most are too proud to admit it. I've seen arrangers used by famous live bands, seen them in personal studios (showcased in mags) of popular musicians. You'd see all these top end synths, then something like a Tyros, Korg PA and the PSR line in these same studios. I remember reading an article on one of the Levert's and in the pic he had a PSR-530 in his bedroom on a stand. Saw the group (I'm pretty sure it was) Rascal Flatts play once on a TV program (they had limited space) the keyboard player was using a PSR-630. John Tesh would hide his Korg PA-80 to his lower right of the grand piano while performing. Arrangers are everywhere in the pro scene, sadly they're just not often in the spotlight.
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#241251 - 08/31/08 06:56 PM Re: No more funny pictures over T3 keys
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Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
Ok Fran, what did you buy this time? Let me guess a Fender Rhodes? (I actually want one of those).




You mean like this ? http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg137/pianodano/?action=view¤t=43bf0d8f.pbw

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