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#240727 - 08/24/08 03:44 PM OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
Stephenm52 Offline
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Anyone have this lead sheet? Thanks in advance

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#240728 - 08/24/08 09:24 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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#240729 - 08/24/08 09:28 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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Steve have you tried to figure the tune out without the music?

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#240730 - 08/25/08 02:44 AM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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Thanks Bill got it!


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Originally posted by Dnj:
Steve have you tried to figure the tune out without the music?


Donny, Thanks for the input, but I have a day job and other responsibilities other than music. You get the idea if I had to try to figure out the tune without the music I could be there doing it for days.

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#240731 - 08/25/08 06:02 AM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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DAYS? on an easy song like that?.....oh come now Steve your pulling my leg right?

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#240732 - 08/25/08 06:08 AM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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Originally posted by Dnj:
DAYS? on an easy song like that?.....oh come now Steve your pulling my leg right?


No BS Donny, easy for you not for me.

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#240733 - 08/25/08 04:59 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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Those of us that are fortunate enough to be able to do this full time hold a significant advantage over the guys who don't. Our chops, our ears, etc., are probably a notch sharper because we do this everyday...usually hours every day...

Put us in a 40 hour, non musical work week and we'll pay the price, I think...

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#240734 - 08/25/08 05:45 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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It's easy to fall into that trap of thinking, that JUST because we 'pros' have all day to do this stuff, we are just that much better at it

Unfortunately, that is not quite the case. We didn't learn this stuff AFTER we became pros. We would never have been able to become pros if we couldn't do this stuff first...

Even if you only have a few hours a day, or a few minutes, it is what you spend those minutes ON that determine how far you can go. It is all too tempting to come home, put on the slippers, go upstairs to the music room, and 'noodle' around for an hour or two. Sure, it's great relaxation, but just like golf, if all you ever do is go out to the course and hack away at the ball, you'll never progress. Spending time on the range, with a bucket of balls, and some quality time with a golf pro can do wonders for your game. But it's not as much FUN as playing 18 holes, is it?

Ear training is kind of like that... Interval recognition, rhythm recognition, chord recognition, chord theory. You don't learn that stuff AFTER you become pro. You MAKE the time to develop it, and then, all of a sudden, you realize you ARE good enough to go pro! It's nowhere near as fun as plonking away at a tune for an hour or so, but the more you do it, the LESS time you have to spend figuring out (or asking others to figure it out for you) the next tune you want to do.

And THAT equates to more fun in the future.

We should none of us be unwilling to learn something new. It's how we grow, how we avoid stagnation and boredom. But it comes at a small price... deferred gratification. Duty NOW, for the future

Play a little less now, play a LOT more later!
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#240735 - 08/25/08 05:47 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
No BS Donny, easy for you not for me.


Steve have your tried to play songs without the charts?......it will give you the opportunity to adlib & input your own flair to it also.....little by little try a few tunes each gig blind....you'll love it & so will your audiences

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#240736 - 08/25/08 07:19 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
Stephenm52 Offline
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Thanks for the great suggestions. I'll try them.

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#240737 - 08/25/08 08:35 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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...and don't forget to wear the chicken hat with your eyes closed
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#240738 - 08/25/08 08:49 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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Zuki whats wrong with you?.....again read my posts I never wear the hat....but instead put it on my clients heads when needed....its just another stupid prop gimmick like those ridiculous calendars

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#240739 - 08/25/08 09:33 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
Bill in Dayton Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
It's easy to fall into that trap of thinking, that JUST because we 'pros' have all day to do this stuff, we are just that much better at it

Unfortunately, that is not quite the case. We didn't learn this stuff AFTER we became pros. We would never have been able to become pros if we couldn't do this stuff first...

Even if you only have a few hours a day, or a few minutes, it is what you spend those minutes ON that determine how far you can go. It is all too tempting to come home, put on the slippers, go upstairs to the music room, and 'noodle' around for an hour or two. Sure, it's great relaxation, but just like golf, if all you ever do is go out to the course and hack away at the ball, you'll never progress. Spending time on the range, with a bucket of balls, and some quality time with a golf pro can do wonders for your game. But it's not as much FUN as playing 18 holes, is it?

Ear training is kind of like that... Interval recognition, rhythm recognition, chord recognition, chord theory. You don't learn that stuff AFTER you become pro. You MAKE the time to develop it, and then, all of a sudden, you realize you ARE good enough to go pro! It's nowhere near as fun as plonking away at a tune for an hour or so, but the more you do it, the LESS time you have to spend figuring out (or asking others to figure it out for you) the next tune you want to do.

And THAT equates to more fun in the future.

We should none of us be unwilling to learn something new. It's how we grow, how we avoid stagnation and boredom. But it comes at a small price... deferred gratification. Duty NOW, for the future

Play a little less now, play a LOT more later!


1) Who said we were better at it? I said we full-timers had an advantage...

2) I think its an evolutionary thing. Sure, I could do alot of this stuff in college, but to this day, I find from playing as much as I do I understand more as I go along...

3) Wow...There's not a thing wrong with asking for charts to a song. Maybe its convenience, maybe its something else but to shorten the leg work isn't a negative.

4) Substitution chords have been around for a long time...some times there really cool, most times they seem to be substitution chords for the sake of substitution chords, if you know what I mean...

5) Some guys don't use charts...ever. (These people are freaks.) I use charts for 99% of my stuff...Do I really need it, probably not...I probably don't even turn the pages when I'm doing some tunes, but its a bit of a security blanket I guess...Its just nice knowing its there...

6) Donnie, what's this about a chicken hat? Do you have your name embossed on them? Do you give them out at all of your gigs or just certain ones?



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#240740 - 08/25/08 09:39 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
Dnj Offline
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Bill read the old posts on the attributes of using a Chicken hat in a performance scenario.

Donny the Freak

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#240741 - 08/26/08 01:33 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
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No charts needed - all memorized for nothing but audience participation. I really don't want to miss a thing.

Is this 'freak' thing good or bad - just curious
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#240742 - 08/26/08 01:38 PM Re: OT Lead Sheet or Piano Vocal for Danny's Song
zuki Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
Zuki whats wrong with you?.....again read my posts I never wear the hat....but instead put it on my clients heads when needed....its just another stupid prop gimmick like those ridiculous calendars


My calendars just arrived - mailings go out next week. They sure work for me
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