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#238253 - 07/15/08 05:54 PM New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
kbrkr Offline
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Korg has announced a new OS 2.0 for the Korg Pa2xpro and the Pa800
http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/news/pa800_pa2x_v2.html


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#238254 - 07/15/08 06:13 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Stephenm52 Offline
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Sounds promising, imagine not having to buy another keyboard just an update to the OS with lots of good things in store. Time will tell!! Let's hope it's not all hype. But it beats having to buy a new piece of hardware.

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#238255 - 07/15/08 06:16 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Dnj Offline
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Whats been updated?

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#238256 - 07/15/08 06:31 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
zuki Offline
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Man, this is awesome news...can't wait Thanks for the post Al.
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#238257 - 07/15/08 06:55 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Mid-September delivery...
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#238258 - 07/15/08 07:46 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Hi,
Gonna be a long wait, but should be worth it. haahaa

Wonderful that they actually UPGRADE for free and not just give you the occasional bug fix.

best wishes
Rikki
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#238259 - 07/15/08 08:51 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Diki Offline


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Welcome to Roland-world!

Everybody rides for free! (except the new OS for the E80, which adds mp3 playback and about a dozen new styles. It's a whopping $30 or so... mind you, you'd pat more than that for the styles alone, from Yamaha).

So much for so-called 'closed' arrangers, eh? Truth is, for quite a while, they ALL have been 'open'. It just depends on the company whether it CHOSES to write new OS's or not...
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#238260 - 07/15/08 09:02 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Welcome to Roland-world!

Everybody rides for free! (except the new OS for the E80, which adds mp3 playback and about a dozen new styles. It's a whopping $30 or so... mind you, you'd pay more than that for the styles alone, from Yamaha).

So much for so-called 'closed' arrangers, eh? Truth is, for quite a while, they ALL have been 'open'. It just depends on the company whether it CHOSES to write new OS's or not...
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#238261 - 07/15/08 09:03 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Opps! Hit quote instead of edit...
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#238262 - 07/15/08 11:51 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
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New free features have been introduced for years on most other instruments, however the most exciting part is the launch date, which is slap bang in the middle of the Pakefield keyboard Festival, and so it will probably be the first live hearing, combine this with Tyros 3 and who knows possibly even a new Roland Arranger, and once again you get a great show for very little money. (No substitute for hands on)
Combine all the above with my upgrade to OAS 7, (And possibly the OAA if it suits after I have given it a good test) and I can’t wait for it to come.
Roll on September

Bill
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#238263 - 07/16/08 04:36 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Unfortunately, interpreting the press release, it looks like September is the Feature Announcement date and NOT the release date. Lord knows when the ship date is.

There has been some speculation Korg was going to un-bundle the Style sets in the keyboard. For those who don't know Korg, they bundle many different styles into one container called a .SET file. This is problematic since you can't just work with the single style, you have to open the .SET, then find the style you want, then tweak it, save it back to the .SET file and so on and so forth.

Also, there is speculation the Songbook will be reworked. Other speculation is they will rework the way style files point to external sound samples and then get linked into the Songbook. If you upgrade the OS or the MusicResources file, it invalidates your songbook and the pointers to the custom styles/sounds.

Other speculation is they were adding Voice correction to the TC-Helicon Harmonizer? I personally thought that was a hardware feature, but maybe they can do it with software?

Anyone else have an speculations, rumors, or facts about the 2.0 release?


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#238264 - 07/16/08 06:49 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
LIONSTRACS Offline
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Maybe they for September will release a big new features like this one on MS 3.0? http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y4wB3GUemVw
who know..all is possible...

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#238265 - 07/16/08 07:52 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
kbrkr Offline
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Lionstracs,

Why would I need this User interface during a live performance ?

Get me from Point A to Point B the fastest way possible.
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#238266 - 07/17/08 12:44 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Nesh Offline
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Registered: 11/30/06
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I think they may also try better midi implementation of the guitar mode, there was a lot of buzz around this issue.

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#238267 - 07/17/08 02:55 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
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Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
Lionstracs,

Why would I need this User interface during a live performance ?

Get me from Point A to Point B the fastest way possible.


A uring live performance you will always see the same MS GUI interface, nothing is changed.
B: when then you switch to the 12 virtual Linux dekstop of the 3 VGA outputs available, you are able to running the all OpenGl desktop effects.
This will be used for the external monitor and TV HDMI monitor, for the full editors and what you like to shown.

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#238268 - 07/17/08 03:30 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi,
be great if they added some more of the "Real" guitars for guitar mode use.
I luv this function in my PA800.

best wishes
rikki

Quote:
Originally posted by Nesh:
I think they may also try better midi implementation of the guitar mode, there was a lot of buzz around this issue.
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#238269 - 07/17/08 03:38 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Diki Offline


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I'd sure love to see a few more fills...
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#238270 - 07/17/08 07:04 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
miden Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:

Other speculation is they were adding Voice correction to the TC-Helicon Harmonizer? I personally thought that was a hardware feature, but maybe they can do it with software?


Nah, it was always a software option for the TC Helicon in the PA1 series. It has beed dropped altogether from the PA 2 series, and it really had a low take-up rate anyway(it cost about $395AUD at the time) so I guess Korg did away with it for that reason.

Haven't seen or heard anything from any Korg people (users) to indicate it is ever making a return.

The Korg guy who frequents the Korg forums has said it is going to be a major upgrade (plus a lot of fixes from posts at the forum) and when Korg say major, it is usually pretty big.

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#238271 - 07/17/08 07:18 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
hellboy44 Offline
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Korg have been doing this sort of thing for a little while now.

Certainly my PA1X has undergone 3 OS updates that fixed bugs and added new features.

I assume this is surely the case with all manufacturers - to a degree....
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#238272 - 07/17/08 10:24 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
spalding Offline
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unfortunately not Hellboy. Most manufaturers will provide bug fixes for free but little else. Korg seem to have been going the extra mile for some time. I think its an excellent philosophy and engenders loyalty to their product. I think that this was a really smart move by Korg and the timing will surely threaten to steal sales from its competition

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#238273 - 07/17/08 11:23 PM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
abacus Offline
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Hi Spalding
Korg is not the only manufacture that adds new features for free with OS updates, if you look at Roland, Wersi, Bohm and Lionstracs you will find plenty of new free features were added as the OS was continually developed.
In addition just like Korg, all the above manufactures also produce optional features that have to be paid for.
Korg was actually quite late in embracing free feature updates.

Regards

Bill
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#238274 - 07/18/08 04:40 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
kbrkr Offline
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Here is my beef with Yamaha; they do NOT release any new features with their OS unless it has to do with selling their styles on IDC.

If they upgrade the MusicFinder in the Tyros 3 I'm going to be really upset because that indicates they rather release a brand new machine with new software than update their existing T1, T2 machines in the public hands. I sold my T2 primarily because of the crappy MusicFinder implementation.

If they had released a major software upgrade with some really nice features, the T2 would still be in my studio.



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#238275 - 07/18/08 05:54 AM Re: New Operating System for Korg Pa2xpro/Pa800
Spalding 4 Offline
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Registered: 09/07/07
Posts: 96
Loc: UK
Quote:
Originally posted by abacus:
Hi Spalding
Korg is not the only manufacture that adds new features for free with OS updates, if you look at Roland, Wersi, Bohm and Lionstracs you will find plenty of new free features were added as the OS was continually developed.
In addition just like Korg, all the above manufactures also produce optional features that have to be paid for.
Korg was actually quite late in embracing free feature updates.

Regards

Bill


You are right Bill. I kind of disocunted both Bohm and Liontracs as in both cases they are difficult to audition anywhere so not really in my field of vision and that no amount of increased functionality can get around the problem of the sound in the first instance. Anyway. Its great news that manufacturers are building some longevity into their products and i welcome it .

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