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#236285 - 06/17/08 09:58 AM Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
sunny152 Offline
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Hello friends,
I purchased Logitech Z5500 speaker system mainly for my s900 keyboard.This speaker system is good for soundproof rooms or for any outdoor stage performance.I play my S900 in our church but our church accoustics are very poor.Is there any better speaker system other than z5500 that can sound good even in poor accoustic rooms?I need your advice.

Sunny

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#236286 - 06/17/08 10:22 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Fran Carango Offline
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Sunny, try turning the speakers facing the solid wall behind you..It may dampen the natural reverberation..
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#236287 - 06/17/08 02:28 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
DonM Offline
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If your budget allows, Bose L1 would be ideal. I have heard it in several churches and it fills every crevice of the building, yet is not too loud right in front of it.
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#236288 - 06/17/08 05:13 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
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It will cure cancer and make you irresistible to women as well

But a $2500-3500 PA systems sounds about right for someone with an S900 and a Logitech

Why not recommend a Wersi Scala, too!!
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#236289 - 06/17/08 08:59 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
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#236290 - 06/17/08 11:13 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
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Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
I also play for church. We play contemporary praise and worship songs (Hillsongs, etc)

I have done a lot of research and the best sound for the price without sacrificing sound quality is the BEHRINGER ULTRATONE series. They have several models. You can get 2 of them for true stereo sounds. Even one of them actually is pretty good. It's got everything you can think of. It's got enough inputs for many players, effects, so no need for separate mixers for a small group. Even Guitar Center carries them and they have money back guarantee if you decide not too like them. The reviews are also great.
Pls note only the K1800FX and the K3000FX have the stereo link capability.

Here are two links with reviews:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/B...-Amp?sku=480782
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-UL...268-i1169233.gc

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#236291 - 06/17/08 11:51 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
DonM Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
It will cure cancer and make you irresistible to women as well

But a $2500-3500 PA systems sounds about right for someone with an S900 and a Logitech

Why not recommend a Wersi Scala, too!!


In case you ever learn to read, I said IF YOUR BUDGET ALLOWS.
The question was "Is there a better audio system other than the Logitech. . ."
The answer is, Yes, there are many. I recommend the Bose L1, IF YOUR BUDGET ALLOWS.
Dikki, why don't you spend as much time and energy being constructive as you do being a smartass? You have a vast amount of knowledge and experience, but seem to prefer belittling those of us who are only trying to be helpful rather than just helping with the problem.
DonM

[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 06-18-2008).]
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#236292 - 06/18/08 04:34 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
sunny152 Offline
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Don,
Will you post some pictures of L1 speaker system and what is it's wattage and price?Is L1 speaker system stereo or mono?please clarify.

Sunny

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#236293 - 06/18/08 06:02 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by sunny152:
Don,
Will you post some pictures of L1 speaker system and what is it's wattage and price?Is L1 speaker system stereo or mono?please clarify.

Sunny

http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/index.jsp&src=MUSICIANS

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#236294 - 06/19/08 10:30 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Diki Offline


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Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
In case you ever learn to read, I said IF YOUR BUDGET ALLOWS.
The question was "Is there a better audio system other than the Logitech. . ."
The answer is, Yes, there are many. I recommend the Bose L1, IF YOUR BUDGET ALLOWS.
Dikki, why don't you spend as much time and energy being constructive as you do being a smartass? You have a vast amount of knowledge and experience, but seem to prefer belittling those of us who are only trying to be helpful rather than just helping with the problem.
DonM

[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 06-18-2008).]


Sorry, Don, but you know, if I'm asking about an improvement for a VERY inexpensive system, to play a very inexpensive arranger through, I would probably think 'smartass' about the guy who would always recommend something completely out of my budget... (I mean, why stop at a PAS? Why not recommend a Vertec concert system? )

Kind of like talking cars with guys, and I say I'd like something a bit better than my Focus, and some bright spark chimes in and goes "why not get a Ferrari, like me?"... I don't know about you, but I think most people's response would be 'smartass!'...

So, maybe if you spent as much time actually responding to a poster's ACTUAL needs, instead of evangelizing your favorite VERY expensive PA, some of us would actually think you WERE trying to be helpful...

So sorry, but from my perspective, I was by no means the first 'smartass' on this thread. YMMV
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#236295 - 06/20/08 04:37 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
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Again you have to agree with DonM this southern gentleman has a way with words. And his thoughts are always right on target.
But ya gotta know anyplace the word Bose shows up on this forum the guy that has never owned or used one will be there to hijack the thread.
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#236296 - 06/20/08 06:59 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Dnj Offline
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Sunny aside from in Church have you played through the Z5500 in other rooms.....interested to hear about your experiences there. BTW what EQ settings, etc.. are you using with the Logitech?

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#236297 - 06/20/08 09:47 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 2397
Loc: Texas
Sunny,

No doubt the Bose system is amoung the best out there but there are some other choices.

I play mostly small venues - medium to small rooms and I use two M-Audio BX5a speakers. Cost was about $300.00 for the pair from GC. They are "moniters" and are flat which I like. I use just the EQ form the keyboard and it works very well and produces very acceptable sound.

I will likely upgrade to the Bose system this year because with the two M-Audios you still get the uneven distribution of sound -loud up front and less sound in the rear. The Bose system seems to solve this problem which I think will be very helpful. I know there are other good choices but I am not a speaker guru - only have experience with those I have mentioned above.

Hope this helps.

Hammer

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#236298 - 06/20/08 11:39 AM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
The only time I chime in on Bose threads is to return a little reality to the trance like state so many owners get themselves into. It doesn't work for everyone, it isn't the best solution for all situations or budgets, and it is comparatively VERY expensive.

Of course, you will rarely get that from an actual owner...

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but the majority of times I give a recommendation about some equipment a member is looking into, I DON'T usually recommend what I use. Unless what I use fits their exact stated needs, which is seldom. I try to think of what THEY might need, can afford, are familiar with, etc., etc..

To be honest, I think that's what the poster is really looking for. There are several posts here about equipment that is FAR more in line with what the initial poster is using, and will still be an improvement without breaking the bank and presenting a paradigm shift in how they amplify their arranger

I guess the trick would have been to recommend the PAS, but then offer some more realistic alternatives when the Ferrari of PA's turns out to be too expensive/complicated/whatever... But often, you can't get any admission out of a Bose owner that there IS any alternative! Before sunny goes off and blows three grand or more of his church's precious offerings, can we at least get some alternatives out of the Bose crowd?

The poster deserves it, doesn't he?
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#236299 - 06/20/08 03:56 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Dikki, thank you for proving my statements to be true. So far you have posted several times on this thread with NO recommendations, and no attempt to help, only negative and sarcastic outbursts.
I currently own four complete p.a. systems and have tried virtually everything on the market. There are many good systems. I have heard the L1 in a couple of churches and it does a great job, once again IF IT IS IN YOUR BUDGET. Most churches I've seen spend far more on inferior systems.
Despite your assumptions, Sunny seems to have some interest in at least learning about the Bose. BTW, you can get the original L1 system, brand new, for $2,000, shipped. In addition to my nightly job on which I use the Ketron SD5, I've played two parties this week, using PSR S900 with the L1. It works great.
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#236300 - 06/20/08 11:05 PM Re: Is there any better audio system other than Logitech Z5500?
Diki Offline


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Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Thanks for proving both our statements true...
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