http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_eWg1fprjE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yc-l8EMww8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEEXhLkUM_o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uspU-ev_vWQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4-SYz3_BCA&feature=related

check it out there are a few more....
BTW why can't Yamaha put a TC Helicon VH in their arrangers like Korg has?



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I ordered the demo dvd from the website, two days after I got it I ordered the voiceworks, what a unit!
It sounds great even if you just use the effects without the harmonies it really polishes up the vocals.

Donny

Thanx for posting that. The harmonies sound great.

Also, you may have helped me find the missing link in my ancestry. I see the video for the TC-Helicon is by Danish demonstrator Bjarne Langhoff. Some of my relatives don't use the "L" before the 2 "F's" as I do. So, far we could only trace as far back as 1848 when my relatives moved here from Prussia, Germany. It was said that they may have originally came from Denmark. This could be interesting for my family and large number of relatives. I'll see if I can get in touch with him.

Best
Scott

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Scott....yur very welcome, I hope you can find out more.

Hi Scott,
Interesting to see that you are also in to ancestry searching! I have been researching my own ancestors for several years now and it's sometimes amazing what we can find out using all the computer technology which is available these days.
Your comment about originating from Prussia reminds me of an incident when I was in Germany a few years ago (actually in Lippstadt). I was looking into a shop window with a friend and was speaking to him in German. An elderly lady overheard me and remarked to me that my accent was "ganz wie ein Preusser". I was very proud of that remark as I remember that my German Teacher told me that the proudest German language is spoken in Prussia!!
Thanks for the memory.
cheers
Eddie Johnson


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[This message has been edited by eddiefromrotherham (edited 05-28-2008).]

TC Voice works Plus... $799

Anyone want this cost to get ADDED to the cost of their arranger (whether they use it or not)...?

Didn't think so...

Hi Eddie

Thanx for the interesting comment. All of my ancestors on all sides came from Prussia and it was interesting that it was handed down from generation to generation on how proud they were of having that heritage. I guess they were just a proud people and ultimately may have something to do with why there no longer is a Prussia.

I am soooooooo very pleased with the harmonizer in the PA800. I could NEVER give up the board because of the added live element it has added...I love the 800 more every single day

Donny - thanks again

Zuki,
we need to get you a job with Korg ( promotions department). It has been a long time since I have heard that somebody is so satisfied with their arranger.

The pa800 harmonizer sounds great, I just wish it had a XLR connector like the 2X does.

Diki that's a mere pittance to spend for this great quality sound if your a singer....TC Helicon also has many models that can let you achieve very good results like the New Harmony M which comes out next month ...oh yeah! Yamaha on board VH is a KAZOO compared to this.
I'm ordering one of these for sure ASAP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69gT3twbFko
http://www.tc-helicon.com/Default.asp?Id=13202
http://www.voicetonepedals.com/harmonym.html

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/VTHarmonyM/




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LOL - No thanks. Have too many things on the plate already

Still have your 800 for sale? If I come across some money soon, I might be interested.

zuki

For $299 or less, the Harmony-M and G are great boxes. I can't see the independent need or use of the others, for me, but if you put them all together you get the Helicon TC ($799) for a lot more money and a lot more space.

Don't forget that Digitech is a big player in the market too. And the older models of either maker are still good boxes and great values for the money.

That harmony sounds super!

OK, bare with me on this question please.

I would like to sing more. But I really am pretty bad at it! Sometimes I can hit notes, sometimes not. If I practice a lot on a song I can get pretty close on most notes. I do believe I have a pretty good ear for the music. It's my vocal chords that don't do that well? lol

With a high end vocal processor like TC Helicon, using PITCH CORRECTION how much will it help?

Also, what about using the arranger right hand notes to control the correct pitch as I sing? I think this is vocoder mode? Would it really be worth trying?

Thanks,
Lee

The 800 is gone! Sold ot 2 days ago on craigslist ( for a nice profit too).
I should have my new toy by Monday (slightly used PA2x).

If I come across another 800 I'll let you know.

Goran

@ Lee,

A vocal processor makes a good singer sound better, and a bad singer sound terriblee.

The demo guy is GREAT! Who is he?


Russ

Russ they are both excellent singers & he's using a NORD maybe a quick email to TC Helicon will answer your question I'd like to know myself?


info@tcelectronic.com


I sent one just now we'll see.


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Hey Goran -

Good selling - I thought you were going with Roland? I envy you on the PA2X.

zuki

The trouble with built-ins, Donny, is that you HAVE to pay for them, whether you want to use them or not!

I've no use for mine, and would have happily paid $800 less for the G70 without one..!

I'm STILL trying to convince my audience that most of what they are hearing is actually being PLAYED, rather than karaoke. Add in a bunch of harmony parts that they can see are obviously not there, and that becomes harder and harder to do. Might as well just use mp3's, and record REAL harmony parts (and guitar parts, basses, whatever) and go full karaoke... (and save the money on the box).

Plus, I'm an old Beach Boys and Beatles fan (especially Beatles for harmonies), and counterpoint is what I prefer in good BV's. Something not so easy to do with these boxes. So, I would prefer that the cost of them is not included in the basic arranger cost, and those that DO want them have the choice of which they use. As you are finding out on the S900, whatever cost that built-in adds, it's money down the drain. You HAVE to buy a better one, anyway!

That's the game Diki....arrangers are loaded with tons of features most we never use but pay for..but who cares when your a pro making big bucks performing you make your initial cost for the unit 100's of times over & over again.....so to me its a very decent profitable investment

Until they add something expensive that YOU'VE got no use for, eh Donny?

Expecting an $800 harmonizer in a $1600 arranger seems optimistic, at best. FAR better to provide maybe an expansion slot, and allow the owner to chose what level of harmony (if any) they want... (or decent MIDI implementation to facilitate third party harmonizers).

This is the way to let inexpensive arrangers get better at their primary function, rather than keep them hobbled while the large part of their R&D gets blown on features that few use... (or inadequate quality for those that DO use them), IMO...

Zuki,
the PA2x is going to be my baby! As far as the G70 goes, I still want one just to satisfy my curiosity. I have to see what the G70 is capable of.

As far as harmonizers go...

Does the PA2x /800 have the pitch correction that Korg sells as an upgrade for the PA1X??? It is just a software upgrade if I am not mistaking.

Zuki I just love my pa800 and the way it records my bass baritone voice.

Unfortunately using the harmonies is confusing for me as I previously owned a PSR3000.

Could you give me some tips to get me started.

I am not a professional am mainly self taught.

Cousin Ken

Ken,
Harmony 101:
1) study vocal groups like manhattan Transfer, Four Freshman, Beach Boys, Mills Bros, even nSync. You have to THINK like a group b4 you open your mouth.
2) take all the vibrato off the harmony presets, if it has it. You don't want the backup singers to do anything you DON'T.
3) use dynamics as much as possible, and turn the harmonies on and off alot to emulate a real vocal group accenting certain phrases. Unless it's a trademark harmony tune like "Surfer Girl" or the same...use the backing voices in a supportive role.
4) keep the lead simple when you're singing in a group. Don't bend as much, don't trill and embellish like a gospel singer. Stick to the melody and let the harmony create the beauty and excitement !

Have fun!

Hitman,
No the PA2XPRO vocal processor does not have pitch correction, unfortunately... I wish it did. It is not an option either.

Lee

Cousin Ken,

Good points from UD. Don't let the naysayers sway you from using the built-in harmonizer. It is fabulous and you don't have to pay extra musicians that CAN'T normally sing on key anyway

I thought they lost the patent rights to TC, but Digitech is advertising a new rackmount version of their newest guitar-driven harmonizer that acceptsa both guitar input as well as a midi signal. Looks pretty cool on paper, at least.

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