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#233872 - 05/10/08 12:30 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
Bachus Offline
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Originally posted by Vadim:
Tyros 3 will probably be the best "DIGITAL WORKSTATION", since it's "digital workstation" it should be able to photo copy, print, send email, browse web...
isn't that what "digital workstation" means ?

Auto-accompanimnet will be so advanced you don't even have to play, you just type what key the song is press play, it starts playing, the chords are triggered by the microphone that you sing it, you just have to press "fill" "intro" "end" etc...



Well with your description of a digitall workstation, only wersi fits that name...

But seriously ever since korg produced the M1, all synthesizers with extensive sequencing aboard are essentially named digitall workstation.
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#233873 - 05/10/08 01:10 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bachus:
Well with your description of a digitall workstation, only wersi fits that name...

But seriously ever since korg produced the M1, all synthesizers with extensive sequencing aboard are essentially named digitall workstation.

(M1 was the first to be named music workstation not digital workstation)

"Music Workstation" makes sense.

but, what's so musical about "Digital Workstation" name, almost any electronic device can be "digital workstation"

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#233874 - 05/10/08 01:12 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Havnt you heard everyones doing it!...
We already have that its called [b]"DJ'ing"

or faking it in regards to anything playing with automation

[/B]


True.

it's also surprising, how many people would rather 'listen' to dj than a keyboard/piano/organ player

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#233875 - 05/10/08 01:36 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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Originally posted by Vadim:
True.it's also surprising, how many people would rather 'listen' to dj than a keyboard/piano/organ player


Yes.....and its GETTING WORSE Day by Day for the real musicians out there as we are almost relegated to being HOME PLAYERS versus outside gigging venues in the mainstream which dwindle year by year & converting musicians to give in, bite the bullet, remember the good old days and go the Lucrative DJ route to make a living or harness that with a day job scenario as a weekend warrior to make ends meet.. Don't be blind it's happening all over the world.

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#233876 - 05/10/08 02:08 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
Diki Offline
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Well, perhaps if you would play some music from the 21st century, you might not find things so tough, Donny

Imagine a big band from the 50's, that NEVER played any music post-1925... They wouldn't have gigged much, either.

Music tastes change, technology changes (remember how Hammond's put the squeeze on big bands?) you either run with it, or get out the way...

(Just funnin' with ya', Donny. We know you are booked solid, but it jibes oddly with your bleak outlook. If you can stay booked, the DJ's aren't having it ALL their way, are they? )

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#233877 - 05/10/08 02:21 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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Diki....playing today's so called music is not the key at all there are millions of people who enjoy music from the past in every genre's but here in lies the tricky part for live gigging musicians today....you MUST find your niche or slice of the pie. This is & can be accomplished through proper diligent legwork & most importantly being good enough & playing FOR THE PEOPLES wants & needs not yours which is a big downfall with many players who put themselves first. Lets just take this example....You go to a restaurant for dinner the dinner is GREAT....you enjoy it, you go home and tell your friends about the place & then you keep going back for more! It works the same way when people see you play, hire you for jobs, & listen to your music or dance. Its not rocket science its logical common sense. Place yourself in a position to be appreciated........have the goods to give them what they want & keep coming back & talking it up about you, do your homework in promotion & you'll be on your way to achieving and keeping a SLICE of the PIE regardless of being slowly decimated by all other competition..

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#233878 - 05/10/08 02:27 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
Diki Offline
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And why are we paying ANY attention to marketing buzzwords like 'Workstation'?

A word is only as good as it's contemporary usage. There isn't a SINGLE non-software arranger out there that is, in the modern sense of the word, a 'workstation'. Modern WS's ALL have multiple arpeggiators, knobs for controlling the patches, DAW functions, audio loop facilities, extremely flexible patch editing and keyboard layout abilities. Virtually NONE of which are in ANYTHING arranger based.

It's like saying that in the 20's, a 'race car' was anything that could go over 50 miles an hour, so anything today that can go that fast is a 'race car'. There's a lot of dump trucks out there I wouldn't call a 'race car'... Would you?

Let's just call a spade a spade, and leave it to the marketing directors to use the words 'manually operated earth excavator'... OK?

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#233879 - 05/10/08 02:28 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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Registered: 09/06/06
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Yes.....and its GETTING WORSE Day by Day for the real musicians out there as we are almost relegated to being HOME PLAYERS versus outside gigging venues in the mainstream which dwindle year by year & converting musicians to give in, bite the bullet, remember the good old days and go the Lucrative DJ route to make a living or harness that with a day job scenario as a weekend warrior to make ends meet.. Don't be blind it's happening all over the world.



Now you know why Yamaha concentrate on Home Users- the growing market.
Not so the Pro market.

Nothing is forever. :P

John

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#233880 - 05/10/08 02:35 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
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It's not much different when manufacturers use the word "pro" to describe an arranger.

Just another marketing ploy.

Ian
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#233881 - 05/10/08 02:35 PM Re: Pictures Tyros 3
Diki Offline
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Donny... Just take a look at your last post, and then the one before it... Talk about bipolar!

I hate to say this, but DJ's have had a prominent role in modern entertainment since the seventies (and earlier), and, as far as I have seen, aren't an any more serious roadblock to a good musician working nowadays than they were back then. The cream always rises to the top.

The more things change, the more they stay the same...

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