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#231108 - 04/02/08 08:36 PM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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I agree, one of your better jobs Fran. Love the acoustic piano - wow!
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#231109 - 04/02/08 09:52 PM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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I can't download or listen to this song? Are my missing a plug-in, or is it just that I'm not a member of the Roland club?

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#231110 - 04/02/08 11:58 PM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
Love the acoustic piano - wow!


This was the piano you panned as 'thin and brittle'?

Wow
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#231111 - 04/03/08 03:49 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
This was the piano you panned as 'thin and brittle'?

Wow

I said, "Love the acoustic piano - wow!"

I was referring to the playing, not the sound, Diki.

The sound is okay...nothing to rave about...it was Fran's minimalist approach that I really liked about the recording.

Ian
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#231112 - 04/03/08 11:33 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Ian, I quoted zuki, NOT you (surprise!). He did NOT go wow! about the piano playing, but the sound, which he had panned (not you) a few weeks back. Hence my post.

You know, it isn't ALWAYS about you...

"OK, that's enough of me talking about myself, now YOU talk about me..."
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#231113 - 04/03/08 11:43 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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#231114 - 04/04/08 09:20 PM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Fran I listened again......it gets better every time

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#231115 - 04/05/08 05:43 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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First time he was singing right.......the next, he was singing left.
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#231116 - 04/05/08 07:38 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Thanks for posting fran. Music is the answer for almost everything.

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#231117 - 04/05/08 08:12 AM Re: I guess I love to be punished..:)
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Topic: I guess I love to be punished.

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Well, we listened to it so I guess we do too.

chas

PS: Just teasing you, Fran, but here is a sincere suggestion: try using more syncopation when 'comping'. Listen to some jazz piano (trio) plus vocal (maybe something with Kenny Barron on it, or the great Hank Jones). Both use an accompanying style that is simple, yet eloquent, and very complimentary to the vocalist. You don't have to play at their level to borrow some of their ideas. Use more dynamics with your comping (easier to do on an acoustic piano). The first chord of every change seems to have the same volume (makes it sound too mechanical). Use more transition chords and more alternate (jazz) voicings. For this type of tune, the 'jazzier' the accompaniment, the more professional it sounds (don't believe me? ask Uncle Dave).

Fran, this was not meant as a negative. I LUV accompaniment and usually spend as much time listening to the accompaniment as to the feature (especially with this kind of tune). I know Donny is just waiting to pounce all over me for daring to comment with having posted my own music, so I'll say up front, take my advice with a grain of salt or ignore it altogether, but just know that it was only meant in a constructive way.

That G70 piano sounds great (assuming there are enough volume points to control the dynamics). Better than anything I've got in a hardware piece (Triton, SonicCell, Motif ES, Tyros 2, Korg PA1x Pro). For recording, I generally use the Motif ES followed by the PA1x (with a custom patch). I love my Triton but the pianos pretty much suck, even with the piano board.

Keep doing these types of songs. It inspired me to add it to my rotation (a straight-ahead 'B3' version) and I plan to 'encourage' the vocalist to give it a whirl.

chas
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