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#226115 - 02/05/08 06:40 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Quote:
Originally posted by jwyvern:

Does the 3K screen tilt or is it fixed and "OK"?
John


3k is fixed also......


can you post a pic of your lift apparatus?

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#226116 - 02/05/08 06:43 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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There needs to either be

A- Tilted up display screens

B- Adjustable up stand arms tiers

C- Design people with brains


carry on.

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#226117 - 02/05/08 07:31 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
jwyvern Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 365
Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
3k is fixed also......


can you post a pic of your lift apparatus?



Donny - There was a touch of irony in my post! - my "apparatus" is nothing more than an unattached 3ft. length of 2x2" underneath the back of the Tyros which sits, not on a stand but on a flat top trolley. Not something which a Pro would want to emulate as a permanent solution I guess.
Looks like Gary's working on something more appropriate in that respect. J

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Hi Ian, thanks for the feedback.

John

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#226118 - 02/05/08 08:03 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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OK John thanx for the info.....Im working on a KB rear lift device myself...its a shame players have to do this on new keyboards .....this should of been addressed in the design room pre production meeting at Yamaha....I hope they are reading this!! What an annoying problem on the S series units.

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#226119 - 02/05/08 08:13 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
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How about raising your playing height by using a thickly padded artist's bench(and, no I am not making fun of thickly padded artists )...or perhaps, if you play whilst standing, a pair of those thick soled boots...that should help.
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#226120 - 02/05/08 08:18 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Donny,
I'm tall enough at 6'5" that it doesn't bother me, but you can get a couple of rubber door stops and use for props if it's a problem.
My MAIN gripe with S900 is the location of that stupid internet button. I've hit it numerous times trying for exit or something else. You can't see it well in the dark and after you press it, you must wait for it to time out before you can get out of it.
BAD design.
Most everything else is pretty good though.
DonM
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#226121 - 02/05/08 09:11 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
Donny,
I'm tall enough at 6'5" that it doesn't bother me, but you can get a couple of rubber door stops and use for props if it's a problem.
My MAIN gripe with S900 is the location of that stupid internet button. I've hit it numerous times trying for exit or something else. You can't see it well in the dark and after you press it, you must wait for it to time out before you can get out of it.
BAD design.
Most everything else is pretty good though.
DonM


Im off to home depot for Rubber doorstops!!

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#226122 - 02/05/08 11:56 AM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14212
Loc: NW Florida
Sorry, guys, but go back and talk to your old piano teacher (you know, the one with the ruler!) about correct posture while playing. Remember what she told you?

Seat hight, just SO...
Piano height, just so... (no adjustment there, anyway!)
Distance from the piano, just so...

These distances weren't coming off the top of her head to torture you. There a recognized 'best' position to sit and play a keyboard, that allows the easiest, freest range of motion for your arms, hands, and fingers. Now imagine the look of horror on her face as you tell her you want to prop up the back of the piano to angle the keys downwards..!

It's all about the angle of your wrist to your arm. There is a natural, unforced one when sitting at a piano, on a bench at the right hight (and, other than children and the very tall or short, that doesn't change much, to the point that most piano stools don't even HAVE a height adjustment). The only reason you tilt a keyboard up or down on a stand should be to preserve that arm/wrist angle for keyboards that are much higher or lower than standard height.

But angling the whole keyboard in a downwards direction, by several degrees, although it will help you to read the display better, certainly won't allow you to PLAY as well.

Or maybe your piano teacher was jiving you....
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#226123 - 02/05/08 12:58 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Dnj Offline
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Again good sound BAD Design.

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 02-05-2008).]

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#226124 - 02/05/08 01:59 PM Re: Yamaha S900 Bad DISPLAY design Argggggg!
Caragabal Offline
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Registered: 11/01/04
Posts: 320
Loc: Hobart Tasmania Australia
I did notice when looking at and playing the PSR900 at the local music store that the screen
had a plastic covering over it to protect it
It made the screen very hard to read especially
when the light was coming from the front.
I did not remove it but will if I purchase one.
Could this be causing some of the problems.

Cousin Ken.

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