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#224201 - 01/16/08 09:11 AM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Oh yes the "Jazz Scat" says it all...
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#224202 - 01/16/08 09:55 AM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
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Donny, that Hammond's not going anywhere! That's my keeper, for sure. But maybe the 3K and $$ would work. Anyway, I don't think Fran has quit playing with the E-60 long enough to think about giving it up yet. But he will The question is, what's left for him to try?
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#224203 - 01/16/08 09:57 AM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Yes Kalimero, velocity will effect the tone , both velocity switched tones and also control of filters..
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#224204 - 01/16/08 10:53 AM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
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Registered: 07/23/07
Posts: 90
Loc: Dubrovnik, Croatia
Fran,

You forgot to answer about the sound of electric guitar in Guitar mode. Is there sound of the distorted electric guitar (with fuzzy effect I suppose) suitable for soloing guitar parts of Pink Floyd (Time) od Santana (Samba Pa ti) music?

I read somewhere that E-60 doesn't have insert effect same es G-70 or E-80, is it limiting the guitar sound?

Thank You very much for Your replies.

BTW I do know people get affected by the sound of certain manufacturers, but it just the way it works.

[This message has been edited by kalimero (edited 01-16-2008).]

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#224205 - 01/16/08 12:21 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Fran Carango Offline
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Yes the E-60 has the electric guitar in guitar mode..and yes you can assign any insert effect to the guitar..The only effects that are missing from the G70/E-80..are mostly effects used with the audio inputs..that the E-60 does not have..so no need for these..The fuzzy guitar effects are covered..
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#224206 - 01/16/08 12:29 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
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Registered: 07/23/07
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Fran, Thank You very much for your answers.

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#224207 - 01/16/08 01:04 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Firstly, Ian... My only reference to Yamaha's arrogance (as you well know!) is their refusal to produce a 76 on anything other than the REAL 'Home' lines. Despite what we all read here.

Now I'm not saying that they don't do market research (but so do all the others that DO make a 76), but you have to question it's accuracy when, here at SZ, the clamor for one is quite constant (and not just from me!). This is a 'general' arranger forum, and there doesn't seem to be any filtering of posters (except for those that get fed up at the constant sniping between some members!), so I am led to believe that this is a representative (albeit small) cross section of arranger players.

How come Yamaha's data is SO different to what we see here, and what we see from other manufacturers? My usage of the word 'arrogance' just reflects this, and also the usual lack of any significant OS updates (want a better Yamaha? Buy a new one, you won't get an update, that's for sure!), despite most other manufacturers' practice of doing this. But maybe 'arrogance' isn't the right word for this. Maybe it's 'laziness' or 'cheapskate'

But there is NO word bad enough for the morons at Roland..! How they managed to destroy their market leader position, despite making some of the best arrangers around borders on the criminal (to their stockholders), or criminally insane! Pile it on, Ian! I agree with every defamatory word...
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#224208 - 01/16/08 01:13 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Originally posted by Diki:
Pile it on, Ian! I agree with every defamatory word...


Thanks Diki, but there's no need to say more...I made my point.

Ian
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#224209 - 01/16/08 01:14 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
And secondly... While the guitar voices in the Roland's ARE quite good, if these are the most important sounds to you (especially for use in styles, rather than playing live), I think you need to look at the Yamaha's.

Those Mega voices, in style mode, provide a degree of realism that Roland can't quite match. Roland's drums (IMO) are better, but Y's guitars rock!

It's a shame ONE manufacturer can't get it all right!
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#224210 - 01/16/08 01:38 PM Re: My first comparison between the E-60 and the G70
cgiles Offline
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Registered: 09/29/05
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:

It's a shame ONE manufacturer can't get it all right!


Uh, Abacus, Liontracs; that was your cue. What're you guys, asleep?

chas
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