It seems to me that Yamaha did not make a significant upgrade from the Tyros1 and most of the tyros2 is not a big improvement in its appearance,sounds and styles.

I was considering changing from my Psr3000 to the S900,but not so sure now.

I must admitt that I may be looking at rolands G70,due the fact I mostly play piano now and dislike to much rhythem.I already have a Roland Hp107 piano and 90% of my time is spent on that with only 10% on the Psr3000.

Daz

Daz good luck with your new G70 or maybe the SD1+!

Daz,

the Tyros 2 is a massive leap from the Tyros 1 no doubt about it. i still really like the T2 and i had to think long n hard before gettign rid of it.

the only reason why i got rid of it is because all I want to play is mainly Dance / trance and then a bit of latin and pop/rock. the motif specialises in this stuff and has soo many more useful tools that the T2 does not have.

i see the T2 as an awesome ALL ROUND board for any style of music BUT the motif is a board that specialises in a certain category which is what I need personally...

cheers,
Nick

Nick are you going to records dance sequences with the XS using all its power, featurees & arps & then play on top?

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No way I'm getting rid of my T2 anytime soon. Other than my laptop and it's many gigabytes of samples and vsti's, I haven't played or tried anything else to this point that overall does acoustic voices better in real time for me.

Of course one of the main points of an arranger is style play, and like others I agree that Yamaha's aren't the liveliest of the bunch. Still, for live work I use a minimal amount of style data, so that isn't a big deal to me, and I personally don't use styles in anything I do in the studio for others, or write from scratch for me, though I will use some style parts in the beginning as a sort of sketch pad. The G70's sounds were very nice, so were the Korg PA's, but I didn't find them to be any better for me, especially when I'm relying mainly on what I play vs a lot of style data.

The key feel is absolutely as close to perfect for me as anything I've ever had.

Aw hell, I always gotta be different I guess. Doesn't bother me at all. I wanted nothing to do with a Yamaha arranger when they were the hot ticket item here. I finally found one I like, and now it seems as if the once predominantly Yamaha based community here has shifted elsewhere.. Go figure.. LOL

AJ



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It is a weird shifting camps phenomena ...but I guess rightly so.....
I hope some people will elaborate on this more!

A comment like this from anyone only tells me that they have never spent any time with either.

They are both excellent keyboards. Anyone should be able to find major improvements between the 2. Unless a person only looks at spec sheets.

Best
Scott www.ScottLMusic.com

It's great we have excellent choices for keyboards these days. They are all good.

However, I think if there was a head count among all SZ members, including the non-vocal ones, there would be way more Yamaha owners than everything else combined.

Scott
www.ScottLMusic.com

Everybody!!!

Show me your data.

Well Scott, yes and no
I think the reason so many of us have Yamaha's is that we still have them along with the newer ones we have bought. The after marked is pretty thin for yam's because everyone already has a few, including me if you want to buy any
I am now totally sold on the E 80 as a keeper.
Bebop

If you asked the question How many people are keeping their T2's/Yamaha's you'll probably find 99% are keeping them and it's only the other 1% that are moving camp.

When the new Audya comes out you'll probably see G70's, E80's PA800's etc being traded in and sold for this - it's just another Synthzone phase where people swap and change.

By the way the T2 is miles ahead of the T1 in sound, styles and features

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My T2 stays till there is a T3.

Impuls

OMG!

I can't believe for a moment that people think that the Tyros 2 is on its way out. It is still leaps and bounds ahead of most keyboards currently on the market. As for it not being much of a step above the first Tyros, that is just ludicrous.
I think it shows how few people have spent much time with it. As it is, the keyboard is out of many peoples budget. And I concur with others regarding the statement that there are far more Yamaha owners on this forum, than any other brand. It's not a shift in keyboard ownership on this forum. It's a shift in those vocalizing their opinion. With Scott not so visible anymore, or rather his pseudonym being less visible, we don't have near the heated debates that we used to. Suffice it to say, the T2 is still an amazing board that continues to deliver fantastic sound few other keyboards can duplicate.

Regards,

Dennis L. Almond
aka...TwoNuts






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You probably will never see that .....
I heard from the grapevine a totaly New Line in the works as we speak!

Same here.
T2 is a definite keeper.
It fills all my needs.

Eric

The Tyros2 continues to be the best selling high end arranger in my region, and the other popular brands are a long way behind.

T2 sales may dip a bit with the introduction of the PSR-S900 which is eagerly awaited by those desiring a great bang for the buck(as in the 3k).

Having played a prototype PSR-S900, I believe it will be a winner.

Ian

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Common misconception...size and weight equal quality and performance. Don't be fooled.

I've played the Tyros 2 and it's awesome, but I'm getting a whole lot of music out of my Tyros 1.

Joe

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Songman55
Joe Ayala

Ian,
I hadn't realized you've had hands on exposure with the S900. I already have mine on order so anything you say will only excite me more.
Please share with us as much info as you can find time to do. Key feel, sounds styles, anything, everything
Jim
PS I don't mean to hijack the thread,
perhaps, Ian, You can begin a new one on your s900 experience?

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Jim,

Because it was a prototype, I am not at liberty to give details...but, suffice to say, you will not be disappointed.

I have ordered one and it should be here soon...I'm pretty excited about it...they picked all the most useful SA voices from the T2 and, in my opinion, they are every bit as good.

Ian

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Common misconception...size and weight equal quality and performance. Don't be fooled.

Hi Donny.

I've heard the same. Yamaha supposedly dropping the Tyros name and coming along with something totally different for their next outing. We'll have to wait and see as if the 3 year period is still the same its not until Nov 2008

Its coming soon....well we've had Mega/SA/so whats next? Maybe they'll get rid of intros & ending....no one really plays through them which would be considered a form of faking it until the style starts....like you see Voncken, or Baartman demo the Yamaha units ....when the intro/ending is on their hands are are off the KB....that would seem odd to an audience...I try to play my own intros when possible so not to get repetitious....different story when playing SMF & Mp3s backups...or maybe we'll have a hybrid / synth arranger mix of some sort finally, & a more split between the Pro Division units vs the home armature units too in regards to ruggedness for the road, sliders,buttons/inputs/outputs/usb-fire-wire/midi,76 keys!!! etc etc .....the list goes on & on



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Do the Yamaha's have the same as the Roland system for intros? That is, there is one simple count-off intro, one intro with no lead, one intro with a lead, and, most usefully (except for the straight count-off/short intro) is an intro that responds to chord input..

Those, IMO are the most useful. No preset changes, just the rhythms and pickups preset. You can get a LOT of mileage out of those without it gets repetitive....

Diki Yamaha 3k/tyros has 3 it doesn't have the 4th version of "do your own" intro like the Rolands that is an awesome feature that you can custom make them any way you want.....that is a feature I miss from my G70. Each KB has something the other ones DONT have that's what keeping it interesting although aggravating.

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Selecting one of the Intro's on both Korg & Roland can follow chord changes which is a great feature....Yamaha boards don't offer this option.

Roland also got a feature (maybe Korg and even Yamaha too?) that counts DOWN during the Intro, so even if you forget, you know how many bars long the Intro is (they all vary!)...

Now all I need is link from the style to the lyrics and chord display, that would show the changes of the pre-programmed Intros, and all would be complete...

Probably the main reason you see the big demonstrators NOT playing during the intros is probably more due to the fact that they don't know what the intro is doing, rather than they don't need to play anything!

If there were a chord display, life would be a lot easier...