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#218244 - 02/21/04 12:02 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Frank,

I am somewhat interested myself in upgrading my acoustic guitar soundset. I'm going to wait to try out Musiclabs "Real Guitar" for myself, since it's due to be released soon. If it doesn't satisfy my wants, what would be some good alternatives to it ? I was pretty impresssed with a soundset I heard on one of the demos I tried, but I can't remember who put it out there.. I tried so many demos when I was searching for better analog stuff. I wish I could just play guitar better instead, but my skills just won't cut it in some of my songs.

BTW, I'd like to get my hands on an Oasys card, if anyone wants to get rid of one or knows where there is one to be found. I heard a piece with a distorted electric guitar on it, that came from the Oasys. It was one of the rare times I was totally fooled by an emulation. I'd have never guessed had I not known beforehand. I'm sure that a lot of it had to do with the skill of the player who did it too, but I seriously doubt that he or she could have made such an accurate rendition with any of the equipment sitting here in this studio.

AJ

[This message has been edited by Bluezplayer (edited 02-21-2004).]
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#218245 - 02/21/04 02:15 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
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Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 1008
Bluezplayer, not knowing what your preferences are, here are some sampled guitars that may be interesting:

Jazz guitars http://www.bardstownaudio.com http://www.spectrasonics.net/hzguitar2.html http://vsl.co.at/english/pages/profile/news/product_news.htm http://www.vintaudio.com/ http://vrsound.com/ http://www.yellowtools.de/index2_e.htm http://www.zero-g.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1 http://www.quparts.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/index.html http://www.biggagiggas.com/

Plus many more. You could look on the Tascam and Northern Sound sites as well. They handle a number of sound developers' products. I believe Steinberg has a guitar VST synth. In all of this you can usually find a guitar that will do the job for you. The same is true for any other acoustic or electronic instrument. It should be noted that the keyboard manufacturers buy samples from these sound developers and cut the sample size to suite there needs.

Also, as noted previously there are very good guitar effects out there, e.g., Amplitube (http://www.amplitube.com/). You can send midi messages to control distortion, overdrive, etc. Some of these samples have these effects built in and you can keyswitch them.

I hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by Frank L. Rosenthal (edited 02-21-2004).]

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#218246 - 02/21/04 02:36 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
vclocke Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 99
Loc: riverside, ca, usa
AND,

(If some drummer comes to me and tells me the action of the standard Tama basspedal is ok, I too will respond that the level I play drums, the action is useless. Too bad if this sounds patronizing to someone less skilled in playing an instrument, but I hate it when someone tells me something is good enough simply because it's good enough for HIM.)

Who might 'Burkels' be patronizing. Am I reading this as those that might have an opinion that the PSR2100 keys are OK for them - are "less skilled in playing an instrument" - or is that too broad of an interpretation ?

vc

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#218247 - 02/21/04 02:39 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Thanks much Frank. I know a little about Steinberg's Virtual guitarist series. It seems that it generally gets mixed reviews, but I pretty much like what I've heard from the demos. I've heard of some of the others you mentioned, but am not very familiar with any of them, so I'll be glad to give them a look, along with Musiclabs' new software. Thanks again for the reply.

AJ
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#218248 - 02/21/04 04:06 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
Beachbum, the originator of this thread, already owns a PSR2000. He states that he is very happy with his PSR2000. He muses and asks whether it is worth it for him to upgrade to the PSR3000.

All this stuff about keyfeel is impertinent to this thread. The thread is about whether someone who owns and is happy with a PSR2000 should upgrade to a PSR3000.

Here are my opinions:

1. The ability to store as many styles as you want and immediately access them is a big plus for the PSR3000.
2. The ability to access alternative intros and endings with just one touch is also a big touch.
3. Better guitar sounds, bass sounds, and live drum sounds plus some other new voices. That's a big plus.
4. More onboard styles - you probably have already downloaded the Tyros styles - that's a big plus - especially since you can create registrations of these styles.
5. A new keyboard that is under warranty as opposed to an old keyboard not under warranty - that deserves some consideration. If you get the PSR3000, get the survival kit that extends the warranty if available. Or buy it with your visa to double the warranty.
6. Color screen? Big deal.

If you're an amateur and have the money, go for it. If you're a professional, you can't afford not to upgrade, IMO.

Beakybird

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#218249 - 02/21/04 04:22 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
beachbum Offline
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Registered: 11/18/02
Posts: 652
Loc: Austin
Thanks for the replies.
I think I will upgrade when the 3000 hits the street. You have all brought up some interesting points. Plus as I'm accustom to the cheesy keyboard it will be just like having a 2000 with more features...
Thanks again,
DJ
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#218250 - 02/21/04 08:19 PM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15556
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
One of the neat features of those "Cheesy PSR keyboards," at least in my case, is that they paid for themselves the first week I owned them. Every dime that came in after that first week was icing on the cake!

Gary
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#218251 - 02/23/04 03:03 AM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
michaeldevine Offline
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Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 23
Loc: Bangalore,Karnataka, India
I use a 2100; had used a 2000, 740, 640, 630 .... kept upgrading as Yamaha kept introducing upgrades, and I WILL upgrade to the 3000, because:

ease of use, light to carry, good sound if you know to use it, can get used to the key feel if you want to ( If I was too finiky I would never progress !!), good styles and voices; Over all a Good Arranger Vs cost Vs Other available options !!

ATB
Michael

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#218252 - 02/23/04 04:17 AM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Worth It?.....


If it makes you Happy or makes you Money its worth it! Oherwise just wait for the new Tyros!

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#218253 - 02/23/04 06:22 AM Re: Is the PSR3000 going to be worth it
Carrie-uk Offline
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Registered: 02/23/04
Posts: 168
Loc: England
Hi Guys,

Just found this forum so this is my first post! I'm just curious if anyone out there uses a MIDI controller such as an 88-key Fatar for live gigs?

Since buying a Fatar for my little project studio, I couldn't imagine performing in front of an audience without its weighted key feel for piano/keyboard sounds.

I realise for most, hauling around an additional 88-key controller would be a bit too much though.

Carrie

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