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#217105 - 01/26/03 09:56 PM Re: SPLITPOINT
TomTomSF Offline
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Registered: 03/24/99
Posts: 736
Loc: Half Moon Bay, CA, USA
I keep my keyboard split point set at F#2 all the time. I hate it when sonething overrides this setting, but I finally figured out how to prevent that from happening.

I don't know how to play a Bb+ with the spilt at F#2, though. I don't think it's possible.

Tom G.
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#217106 - 01/27/03 12:41 AM Re: SPLITPOINT
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
F#2, except when I play "Colour My World".
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#217107 - 01/27/03 03:57 PM Re: SPLITPOINT
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
Posts: 562
Loc: Oceanside, CA USA
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Originally posted by TomTomSF:
I keep my keyboard split point set at F#2 all the time. I hate it when sonething overrides this setting, but I finally figured out how to prevent that from happening.
Tom G.


Thanks TomTomSF for mentioning that you solved the "Split-Point Takeover" problem that can happen occasionaly with different styles. I found the setting in the Functions Menu that eliminates the problem after a little searching. I've had my PSR 2000 for over a year now and I keep learning something new from not only my own delving but from so many others on this Forum and the Yahoo Forums that have shared tips and knowledge and how-to's of my particular keyboard. Thanks again,

Mike

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#217108 - 01/28/03 09:18 AM Re: SPLITPOINT
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
nardoni2002,
Scottyee and evangelical are setting splitpoint at F# not F. I keep my split point at F# as well. G7 would be played in root postion GBDF, not BFG, first inversion.
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#217109 - 01/28/03 10:00 AM Re: SPLITPOINT
nardoni2002 Offline
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Registered: 08/12/02
Posts: 673
Loc: malaga, spain
thanks starkeeper,but the point i was trying to make ,being not very experienced is this,sometimes you play a piece of music and during the piece, chord changes to inversions which could affect the splitpoint,,,also what is the minimum amount of octaves needed to cover all the chords and inversions,thanks mike

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#217110 - 02/10/03 02:41 PM Re: SPLITPOINT
Joe Waters Offline
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Registered: 01/08/01
Posts: 225
Loc: Sterling, VA USA
It is easy to figure out the minimum span needed to play all chords in all inversions. If you start on the lowest note, C1, the major would end on G, the sixth on A, then seventh on Bb, and the major seventh on B. So, to play all the variants of the C chord family on the root C, the most distant note you would need to reach is B. Notes for chords above the 7th, can be played within that first octave. For example, the PSR will recognize C-D-E-G as C9.

So, look at B1 now. If it is to be the "root", then the furthest inversion would strech out to Bb2 -- a B major seventh. If you set your left hand split to strech from C1 to Bb2, you could play all the inversions of all the chords.

If you only used major and minor chords, by this reasoning, a B major with the B1 as root would extend only up to F#2. So, with the default split point Yamaha sets, F#2, you could play all the inversions of all the chords -- if you only used simple major and minor chords.

I generally have my split point set at G#2. I can't play ALL inversions of ALL chords with that split point, but I can play ALL inversions of most chords and still have some notes below middle C for the songs that require them. If the melody goes down to G2, I have to either change the split point, or simply change the octave for the right hand and play up an octave.


[This message has been edited by Joe Waters (edited 02-10-2003).]

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#217111 - 02/11/03 09:44 AM Re: SPLITPOINT
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Mine's probably set the highest here at D below middle C. I need that room for playing bass lines and it still leaves me with 3 octaves to pound out chords with my right hand. I need 2 octaves to play juicy lines that move all over in the left hand.
I also have my RH section transposed an octave lower so anything lower than the lowest Eb is muddy anyway. This is the best range to compliment my vocals. Sometimes when I solo on a piano sound, I pop the sound back UP the octave to get a nice bright feel, then back down again to comp.
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