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#216972 - 11/24/05 07:24 AM All comments please on this song
zalmi Offline
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Ok, this song I made a few years ago, using a Korg Trinity, a recorder, and some violin by my brother (he was on the video I posted last).

It's sequenced, and not done on an arranger, but it's still worth a listen hopefully. I did all parts except for the violin.

The main tune is an old Hassidic one, but the introduction is mine.

All comments welcome, good or bad.

Zalman

[woops, ok here it is http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1VE18HYZEFB9S2NL9EGB152Z2O ]

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#216973 - 11/24/05 07:36 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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where is the song?

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#216974 - 11/24/05 07:48 AM Re: All comments please on this song
zalmi Offline
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sorry about, there it is now
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#216975 - 11/24/05 08:19 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalmi....Great, I loved it...all of it...it was very soothing and when I closed my eyes, I felt I was in the fields at the bottom of the mountian....good show, LaHaim
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#216976 - 11/24/05 08:24 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Thanks Tony! You've always got a good word! I think it was inspired by mountains, so that explains it!
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#216977 - 11/24/05 09:03 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalmi,that is exellent.Very clear recording of a haunting melody.Terry
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#216978 - 11/24/05 09:10 AM Re: All comments please on this song
zalmi Offline
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Thanks Terry. Would you describe the song as 'dark' or 'bright?
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#216979 - 11/24/05 09:30 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalmi,
to me the song is "bright"; true, it's a song of sorrow and hard work, but also of hope. There is definitely the hope of a better future, but the present is still not what we would like.

Very well played and full of emotion.
Would like to know the words, preferibly translated in english
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#216980 - 11/24/05 09:41 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Wow Dreamer! You've really put your finger on it. It's exactly what I was feeling at the time. Even I have never really been able to describe it in words. Thanks!

The words of the original tune are from Psalms 42:

42:2 As the deer longs for the water brooks,
so my soul longs for You, G-d.
42:3 My soul thirsts for God, for the living God.
When shall I come and behold the face of G-d?

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#216981 - 11/24/05 09:45 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalmi, maybe it's because I feel like that all the time...
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#216982 - 11/24/05 10:10 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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btw, thank for the "lyrics": they are really beautiful and full of meaning!

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#216983 - 11/24/05 12:27 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalman, You are very talented. A wonderful, haunting melody. Nice Recorder, Nice Violin.
Nice sequence.
DonM
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#216984 - 11/24/05 01:03 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Very nice recording and wonderfull melody.
Is it middle eastern? What is the rythm?
Thanks for sharing
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#216985 - 11/24/05 01:05 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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I'm hypnotized!

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#216986 - 11/24/05 01:48 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Dreamer: Yes they are beautiful lyrics. I think the mood of the song also reflects the lyrics, although they are not sung.

Thanks DonM for your compliments. Do you think it needs improvement to be on commercial standard? If so, which areas.

STAM, I also find that every time I listen to the track, I'm transported somewhere else! The melody is a Hasidic one from the Chabad group, not sure which country of origin, possibly Russia or Romania.

I find that a lot of these tunes really need to be played outside of a 'click' to do it full justice. Since I was sequencing, I had to use a click, but I wasn't following the bars, because it alternates between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4. I think the tune isn't really meant to have a 'beat', but it probably is closest to a 3/4.

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#216987 - 11/24/05 04:22 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Great Melody, very well recorded, well balanced, bright with air in it... sorry don't know how to give a proper english name for that, you might say the song "breezes"

The violin is very well played and an excellent pitch! as well.

Fred
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#216988 - 11/24/05 04:35 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Beautiful
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#216989 - 11/24/05 05:13 PM Re: All comments please on this song
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Zalmi,

Excellent tune. I really liked the song and your orchestration work. The flute line is full of expressivity. Is it really the Trinity, or a real flute?

Congratulations for your work,

-- José.

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#216990 - 11/25/05 12:39 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Thanks Freddynl

Glad you enjoyed it, and thaks for your response, Claudio.

Jose, thanks for the compliments. The 'flute' I played, not on the Trinity but on the recorder. All other parts were the Trinity aside from the violin lines by my brother (although the strings during the intro is the Trinity).

So, is it on a commercial standard, and if not what would I need to do to bring it to that level? Better mixing? mastering? arranging? Please state your opinions; I will not be offended. And if I will, at least I will know what to do to make a commercial track in the future. Many thanks.

Zalmi
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#216991 - 11/25/05 12:42 AM Re: All comments please on this song
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Ditto to what everone else has said.
Held me transfixed.
I love violins played well with expression.
I was impressed by the clearness of the sounds.
Well done.
More please.
Cousin Ken

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#216992 - 11/25/05 01:10 AM Re: All comments please on this song
zalmi Offline
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Thanks Coisin Ken. As per request, I'm posting another song in a new thread.

I would appreciate if someone could comment on its 'commercial' status.

Thanks everyone for the warm feedback.
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