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#215288 - 11/14/04 09:07 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
tigerfool Offline
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Registered: 11/13/04
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Just like an old saying: A water too clear bears no fish at all. If Roland people want to suck every cent from the consumers, they are totally wrong.

Yes, they may want to learn from Dell, but that is a totally different story. Roland cannot do that.

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#215289 - 11/14/04 09:42 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
Man that's messed up. Why is Roland doing this? I think they'll lose more business this way. Maybe they're not planning on making a lot of G-70's? Buying directly from them they can control the price and if a lot of people are turned away by this they can have better control on supply and demand. It still doesn't make sense though.

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#215290 - 11/14/04 10:05 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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MAYBE they'll price it fairly.....NAW!
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#215291 - 11/14/04 10:25 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
I consider the price very reasonable...it's a lot of board for the money. UK Price is £2199 Uk Pounds. Remember the G70 is 76 keys and a lot less than the Tyros 61 keys.

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#215292 - 11/14/04 10:35 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
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Well once every one hears the wonderful sounds of the G70 and after a few people give their reviews about how great the G70 is, regardless of the selling policy the G70 will sell.

If people think that there is no alternative to the G70, they would more than likely buy it.

The greatness of the product is enough to make people buy it.


If that is Roland’s thinking, then they definitely would not have me as a buyer. I am already not impressed with the specs of this “new” board. If I want some good Roland sounds, I will get the Fantum module.
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#215293 - 11/14/04 10:48 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
Actually, this may not be such a bad thing for the consumer. When I purchased my Tyros, it took Yamaha 5 months+ to ship to the distributors and another 2-4 weeks to dealers.

So, If I can order direct, I might receive it sooner! Also, if the price is comparable to the Tyros, then there is no need for deep cuts. But I'm sure the dealers in the States will be very put off by the lack of product opportunity.
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#215294 - 11/14/04 11:46 AM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
One point to think about. If due to Roland's policy the price is held...this will mean the G70 will if or when you wish to sell it..should be worth more.
There nothing more upsetting than buying a product to find 3 months down the line that the item has been heavily reduced.
I expected the G70 to be in the Tyros PAX price point, but in fact the UK price of £2199 is a lot less and very competitive.

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#215295 - 11/14/04 12:11 PM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by Graham UK:
I consider the price very reasonable...it's a lot of board for the money. UK Price is £2199 Uk Pounds. Remember the G70 is 76 keys and a lot less than the Tyros 61 keys.


Huh?!

Do I have the numbers wrong or what? I thought £2199 Uk Pounds is roughly equivilent to $4,084.43 US dollars, which is "way MORE" money than the Tyros costs. I paid $2,400 US dollars for my Tyros nearly two years ago (when it first hit the streets) and I believe the Tyros street price is now even lower. As promising as the G70 seems, I would not be willing to pay $4,000 US dollars for a G70.

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#215296 - 11/14/04 12:44 PM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
tonkan Offline
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Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 75
Loc: Sweden
G-70 seems to at the same cost as Tyros.
At Thoman, http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann
Tyros 2999 euro
G-70 2999 euro

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#215297 - 11/14/04 01:07 PM Re: G70 to be supplied direct from Roland to customer
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by tonkan:
G-70 seems to at the same cost as Tyros.
At Thoman, http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann
Tyros 2999 euro
G-70 2999 euro


The 2999 euro price is equivilent to $3,890.60 US dollars, still WAY HIGHER than than what I believe the $3,200 Tyros list price in the US, and 'astonomically' higher than the US $2,400 street price. Sounds to me here from what I'm reading, that keyboards (pd for pd, or euro for euro) are priced much higher in Europe, and which may be more due to the effect of the current world currency exchange rate.

I think Roland (to remain competitive) had better LOWER their G70 list price substantially, especially since there will be no negotiation room available to meet the other manufacter's equivilent 76 note arranger offerings (Korg PA1Xpro, Ketron SD1), selling for significantly lower street prices.

Scott
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