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#214041 - 10/03/03 04:39 PM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
The Accordionist Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
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It would be hard to convince me of Ketron's reliability.

I've had mine for around 4 months and already the screen is flickering and going blakc to the point that I am scared to use it live, and for some unknown reason, all of a sudden the bass lines will DROP OUT completely of a style and a reboot is the only solution. This last problem has started to manifest itself in the past two weeks. It's getting more common, to the degree that about once every other hour-long session of practice it will happen.

I'm scared to death to use the thing live and always bring my 10-year old, VERY trustworthy Alesis SR-16 drum machine along as a backup. The first time I am forced to use it at a gig will be the day I put my XD3 up for sale.

Like you said though, you have used your Ketron for 3 years without a problem. I have used mine for four months (bought it brand new from George Kaye!) and have run into problems.

Just my opinion and my experience.

Tommy

PS> Yamaha probably sells 100x more keyboards (probably many more than that) than Ketron so to say that a couple people complained about Yamahas and a couple people complained about Ketrons on a BBS aren't really comparable.

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#214042 - 10/03/03 08:47 PM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
I used Tom's X1 for close to a year before he bought from me. It had a quirk or two in the effects that bothered me, but it wasn't a voice that he used. Other than that, no problems with that particular Ketron for about 4 years.
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#214043 - 10/04/03 09:25 AM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
DannyUK Offline
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Registered: 12/09/99
Posts: 1130
ive had my x1 for about 4 years now, and apart from the antics i had for the first 2 days, i have not had a problem since.

the only thing i will say, is that sometimes when playing different midi files, various tracks "lock" into VOCAL01 for some reason, most of the time its track 16 but sometimes tracks 5 does it. To get out of this, i genrally have to reset the kb, as just simply selecting another midifile does not cure it. Strange....

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#214044 - 10/05/03 11:00 AM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
Quote:
Originally posted by The Accordionist:

It would be hard to convince me of Ketron's reliability.

I've had mine for around 4 months and already the screen is flickering and going blakc to the point that I am scared to use it live, and for some unknown reason, all of a sudden the bass lines will DROP OUT completely of a style and a reboot is the only solution. This last problem has started to manifest itself in the past two weeks. It's getting more common, to the degree that about once every other hour-long session of practice it will happen.

I'm scared to death to use the thing live and always bring my 10-year old, VERY trustworthy Alesis SR-16 drum machine along as a backup. The first time I am forced to use it at a gig will be the day I put my XD3 up for sale.

Like you said though, you have used your Ketron for 3 years without a problem. I have used mine for four months (bought it brand new from George Kaye!) and have run into problems.

Just my opinion and my experience.

Tommy

PS> Yamaha probably sells 100x more keyboards (probably many more than that) than Ketron so to say that a couple people complained about Yamahas and a couple people complained about Ketrons on a BBS aren't really comparable.



Hey Tommy ,

What operating OS are you using with your SD1?

Have you done any upgrades or downgrades with the OS ?

Curios ....
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#214045 - 10/06/03 12:47 AM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
asafar Offline
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Registered: 08/13/01
Posts: 374
Loc: New York
Guys I am sorry but i am not hitting on Ketron or trying to give them a bad name.
I love there products and had the Sd1/X4 and VEGA and there is a big number of people that has problems with there X1 and VEGA and several times I had to open my VEGA and fix that screen problem by adjusting the plastic voltage screw.
Any time I tried to work on the user DrumKits it freezes and this is with the latest OS.
And I am not saying that all those other companies have perfect arrangers I am just posting to let AJ know what they need to do to make there great products reliable for people to use.
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#214046 - 10/07/03 12:38 PM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
MusicMan0075 Offline
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Registered: 05/15/03
Posts: 9
Loc: Brooklyn, NY, USA
I was in the store trying out the ketron xd-9 and really liked it and would've bought it on the spot if it wasn't for one (stupid) thing. there was no dial for +/- Tempo, which I use during live gigs.

It really bothered me that I had to settle for the Korg PA-80.

Mike

Brooklyn, NY

P.S. Ketron is carried in Brooklyn by Maggio music. www.maggiomusic.net

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#214047 - 10/07/03 03:07 PM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
ziggy Offline
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Registered: 08/13/02
Posts: 222
Loc: Malta
To be honest I don't have that much time, but today An X1 came in my hands because a guy was having trouble with so he brought to me to fix the problem. I am a Genesys owner , so I will compare with that, I have to be honest with you I spent 3 hours listinig to what this keyboard had to offer cause I heard a lot about Ketron but never heard on. There are some good sounds in it but nothing to do with Gen I wouldn't even consider it a a contender it is so slow, not user friendly at all and the display orginisation is very unprofessional.
I like some of the styles though, I played some midi files and they sounded terreble,
now I know how much advanced are GENERAL MUSIC in this High End Dipartment, the operating system of ketron is like when we use to use the AMIGA it took me way back in time. Today I appreciated more the Genesys, I still have one more goal and that is to Compare Gen with the Tyros I haven't had the oppotunaty to have one in my hands.

This is no offence to nobody who own a Ketron, I am expressing my opinion. I am a pro in this line and when I am working I always go for the best tools, and ketron sure wont be one, It needs to be improved in all departments.

My Opinion to what I heard today.

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#214048 - 10/10/03 10:48 AM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Friends,

OK, we have scheduled the first KETRON clinic in Miami FL next month. Pls. follow with details at this link:
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/000477.html

Thanks,

AJ
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#214049 - 10/11/03 10:46 AM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
Stevizard Offline
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Registered: 01/30/00
Posts: 367
Loc: Indianapolis, IN, USA
Hello gang, long time no see;

Yeah, I'm still alive and kickin' (but the leg won't go as high as it used to).

It's funny to hear all of you saying what I posted 2 years ago about the SD-1 (even before it was publically released). At that time, I said that I would not even consider a keyboard with only 64-note polyphony and just one national service center and no local representation.

Ketron has to spend money to make money, and that means setting up shop in a few major cities. Did you know that over 90% of all of products manufactured in America flow out of just 10 U.S. cities? Well, it's true. If Ketron would set up just 10 stores in the U.S., they would hit every major market.

What would it take for me to buy a Ketron keyboard? Well, I'm not asking for the world, I just want a keyboard that makes me sound as good as Uncle Dave. (There you go Dave, and you thought I never said anything nice). BTW, I listened to your new song on Don Mason's site - it's a KEEPER. Nice work.

Regards to all,
Steve


[This message has been edited by Stevizard (edited 10-11-2003).]
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#214050 - 10/16/03 04:34 PM Re: What would it take you to purchase a Ketron Workstation/Arranger?
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3583
Loc: Middletown, DE
Topics that will be covered include:

* What makes these products unique to products in the market today (and why you would want to consider Ketron products).
* Using the products for live performances, studio recordings ... etc.
* Expanding your current/existing gear with a Ketron product suitable for your needs.

More ideas are welcomed.

Thanks,

AJ
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