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#209864 - 06/30/06 07:25 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Dom....

Thanx so much for taking the time to demo your Mediastation pro KB for us all......The possibilities are endless for so many applications on stage & studio...I enjoyed it very much. I for one will be looking for more of these video sessions possibly to demonstrate each section in more detail to explain how they work. Keep em coming!!!

Ciao

Donny

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#209865 - 06/30/06 07:48 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
abacus Offline
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Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5347
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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Originally posted by squeak_D:



Now we just need those who an afford one to take her home--tweek her, then the true test--"gigging with it".

Squeak


Wersi instruments have been gigged for the last 6 years, from small venues, concert halls, and stadiums and even in the middle of a swimming pool, (Although it was on a dedicated floating platform) therefore as the Mediastation is the same concept, there shouldn’t be any problems playing it live.

Bill
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#209866 - 06/30/06 09:35 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
Ensnareyou Offline
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Registered: 03/31/02
Posts: 491
Loc: California
Thanks Dom for posting the video! Hopefully the skeptics here will now see what the Mediastation can do rather than speculate. The demo you showed was but a fraction of what the MS can do but it gets the point across.

FYI... The sounds Domenik played were basic GM/GS except the B4 and the GIGA piano. Once you load numerous GIGA, Kontakt, or other third party sample files into the Mediastation the sound palette is unreal. The stock sound banks that come with the Mediastation are quite good but the real power is unleashed when you load massive sound files. Give a listen to the GIGA (www.tascamgiga.com) or Garritan (www.garritan.com)sound libraries to hear what I am talking about. No Tyros is going to compete with the likes of those sounds. The other thing to take into consideration is that the Mediastation has true 24 bit audio and the MP3 format does not do it justice.

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#209867 - 06/30/06 10:08 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
Wow! I listened to some of those demos. All I can say is stunning I still say this type of keyboard is going to only gain in popularity.

I wouldn't be surprised that down the road, Yammie starts doing this (open source) set up. The possibilities are endless.

Actually strike that..., I take that back--I can't see Yammie doing this. I honestly can't see Yammie creating a keyboard that allows the user the flexibility of the Mediastation....

Something like that would (in my opinion) hurt their sales With something like the Mediastation you upgrade the boards "software-and hardware"--allowing you to keep the same board.

Yammie (and others) rely on "upgrading the whole board". They give you tid bits on the upgrades--but never all the things you want because if they did--you wouldn't buy the next model

I know that's just business.., I won't argue that. I guess that's why I like the Mediastation. You keep the same board, and updates are easier on the pocket because you don't have to buy the whole keyboard for the upgrade. Woldn't it be great to have a T2, and when Yammie releases the T3 you'd be able to keep your T2 and add the sounds of the T3 via expansion, and so on?

The price Dom will sell you a Mediastaion will shock you. (He quoted me a price less the the T2, and considerably less than the current online prices).

I gotta start shmoozing the wife here. That Mediastation is my cup of tea. Any pointers on how I should start my shmoozing???? Gotta plan my approach here

Squeak

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#209868 - 06/30/06 10:55 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
LIONSTRACS Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 664
Loc: Italy
Squeak...relax please...
Just watch the new Video that I have posted on TOP.

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#209869 - 06/30/06 10:58 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
I watched the video. Well done.., sorry If my excitement is getting too high. I just think boards like the Mediastation are going to force other companies to step up the competition

Well done Dom...., I wish you and your team the best. You've produced a fine product.

Squeak

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#209870 - 06/30/06 11:55 AM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
richard_shiflet Offline
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Registered: 02/25/04
Posts: 172
Loc: Greenwood, SC -USA
Good video Domenik, in 10 minutes you showed GM, Giga and Vst sounds; you played an arranger style, a midi file and an audio wave file. While also showcasing a really cool feature that nobody has mentioned yet. Using the audio editing engine included in the mediastation you first pitchshifted the wave file without speeding up or slowing down the file then you timestretched the audio wave file slower and faster without changing the pitch all with the simple turn of a dial. And all that included the Mediastation doing a complete boot up from being completely powered off.

The other 2 videos were good as well. The last was fun to see the Mediastation playing video with all these sounds still loaded in memory and ready for play at the touch of a button. While these accomplishments may seem amazing I do the same thing everyday with my Mediastation. It really is that easy!

Richard

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#209871 - 06/30/06 12:28 PM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
1) I can't believe all those buttons and lights.
2) Yamaha won't have a choice, they usually are a leader, but if necessary they will follow the leader. Yamaha will make money with softsynths. Ask Microsoft if there is any money to be made selling software only.
3) Squeak, you would probably have to BUY B4, and giga studio, and Garittan, etc. The Mediastation probably comes with the stock GM voices only.
Starkeeper

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#209872 - 06/30/06 12:35 PM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
Starkeeper, I don't think it just comes with stock GM/GS voices. I'm pretty sure there are some other goodies included.

Yeah Yamaha will sometimes follow the leader, but if they do (there's no way on this green earth) that you'll see a price tag on it as found on the Mediastation.

You better believe Yammie will take the road Korg took with their Oasys. If Yammie does it, be prepared for that $6,000 and up price tag!

Squeak
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#209873 - 06/30/06 01:14 PM Re: Lionstracs Video of System booting and VST's
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
Hi Dom . Thanks for those great demonstrations. You see what kind of positive and useful feed back you get when you just demo the instrument ?

Hears some more positive feedback

1. There were some definate latency issues when you changed sounds from VST or giga to gm. Thats not so vital in a studio setting but in a live setting that can be a deal breaker. Especially if the audience notice and i think that they would.When you used some of the user presets in the 1st video there was a very noticeable delay between the demonstrator depressing the keys and the eventual sound. You need to address that .
2. In the second video using the Kontack vst plugging,i counted 17 button presses to connct just one vst.Again that might be tolerable (to some) in a studio but in a live setting thats simply not acceptable.
3. I noticed that the demonstrator had to be very very careful when using the touch screen to select the sounds and connections for the vst and midi connections .Does the MS have the facility to save the users favourite settings and VST sounds so that they can be used instantly just like the One Touch Setting function that almost every arranger keyboard has. If the MS does not have this function YOU MUST DEVELOPE AND INCORPORATE ONE
3 I specifically asked you to demonstrate how the VST , Giga pluggins work in the arranger function. Just so that we are clear i mean vst bass and giga drums and kontact pianos and b3 organs etc. I want to hear how the various pluggins interact in the arranger function and how well they balance and can be switched from one style to another whilst playing live. If the latency problems exist when changing styles then you will need to overcome this potential problem if this instrument is to be marketed as an arranger keyboard
4. last bit is really about how the eq etc is set up for each VST instrument that you might use in the arranger function. The last thing any gigging musician wants is to be fiddling about trying to balance sounds when you change sounds whilst playing live !!! Again if you can incorporate a One Touch Setting function , this would solve some of the problem.

I hope that you have found the feedback useful. One of the problems that i can see immediately with the marketing of the MS is that you are not getting constructive feedback from your target audience

The more you work with us, the more we are likely to want what you produce. Make no mistake, there are no other manufacturers that have taken the opportunity to work with its target market as you have been given.Please understand and jumpall over this opportunity as it will reap rewards many times over.

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