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#205266 - 09/13/04 02:17 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
karlo Offline
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Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 19
Hello,
I'm roland user. I have g1000.
I'm really disappointed cos g70 has no sampler. I mean sample player, not sample recorder. I don't have any interest in recording samples. But I was in hope that new roland arranger will have sample player with import option for .wav, .aiff, roland or akai samples.
I'm afraid that with g70 we'll get again many and many tones (10.000 ?), but they'll be to much simillar like on E\G\V series.
p.s.
Srx's demo songs didn't delight me.
best regards

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#205267 - 09/13/04 06:00 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
karlo Offline
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Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 19
I know that Roland produces printers also. But why in arranger we must use only roland's 'toners', without any 'refill' option? This is 2004. year. It seems to me so conservative and selfish approach.

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#205268 - 09/13/04 09:26 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
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#205269 - 09/15/04 10:49 AM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
Anonymous
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Hello Mister George Kaye:
Maybe you now more about the new Roland arranger and have maybe som picture's
is this possible to play with two sequence's


The 76 key keyboard has the same action found in Roland's G1000 keyboard (the one Fran loves so much). This will be good news for many who preferred this keybed over the current VA76. This was also used in the Roland XP80. There are no speakers on board.

The polyphony is 128 note

There is a large color screen

The operation is all push buttons......NO touchscreen on this model!(Seems like Roland listened to most of you who disliked the touch screen)

The keyboard looks more like the G1000 but with some looks from the VA76 (mostly because of the large square screen)

192 MB of rom sounds.(largest in Roland's current keyboards). 1598 tones in 16(or maybe18) catagories. The Ultimate Grand Piano from the Fantom X is included.

270 styles using a new "Progressive Style Technology". Each style has 4 variations, 4 intros, 4 endings and 6 Fill ins(that's right, "6" fill ins.)

There is a floppy drive, a PC Card Slot which takes the same adaptor as a lap top computer for using all kinds of external storage devices including IBM Micro Drives.

Internally there is 50MB of memory (that's quite a lot!)

One SRX Expansion slot is provided for adding additional sounds from Rolands huge library.

A fully programmable VK8 Virtual Organ is included with 9 faders right under the screen for complete control. There is a B3 Emulator featuring, like the VK8 Percussion, Leakage, Overdrive, Vibrato, Leslie and Registrations.

A feature from the Discover 5 which allows you to change all of the data while playing a SMF is available and then storing while on the fly.

Adaptive Chord Voicing- Intelligent Chord voicing while playing the style with the left hand so as to not hear any "jump" in octave of certain style parts while moving up the keyboard.

Vocal Harmonizer with seperate audio output and seperate effects processor.

Audio Stereo inputs with seperate effects (85 different effects)

Each section of the keyboard has it's own effects (some more than 1 or 2) seperate from the other parts. Right hand has 3, Backing styles have 2, VK Organ has 3 (Rotory, Vibrato and Overdrive. The Vocal input has noise gate, compressor, Reverb and Delay.

D-Beam is included

Screen will display the Score and the Lyrics.

Video out is standard on the back to view on a large TV or Monitor.

16 track sequencer with Micro Scope Edit

Chord extractor will provide chords when playing back a standard midi file which does not include chords.

Programmable One Touch settings within the styles.

144 User Programs with no limit to how many can be stored when using a PC card storage device.(I'm not real clear on this one!)

Vocal harmonizer presets include 30 small, 30 ensemble and 24 vocodor setups. There are also talk, voice effects, auto pitch and singer modes.

The G70 doesn't appear to have sampling or hard disk recording. I asked about this and I was told no, but again this was a quick look over a fax from Italy.
This is the information I have right now.
I've been told the product will begin showing up by the end of the year in Europe and probably will not be shown until the Winter NAMM show here in the USA. Price is not known at this time until it's official unvailing in October in Europe.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

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#205270 - 09/15/04 11:47 AM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
Vadim Offline
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Registered: 07/13/03
Posts: 321
VariPhrase was totaly useless(it`s just a vocal sampler) when I was buying my VA-76 i thought I will be able to record Audio into sequncer(because of the input), when I got more familiar with it I teried to sample a guitar and other stuff from CDs, that`s when I relized it only Vocal sampler, if it would have been vocal harmonizer it would be great but... it`s not...


you want sampler on Arranger keyboard... never gonna happen(my opinion). ArrangerKeyboards were made primarily for live purposes, they also have a sequencer primarily for playing back MIDI files, if they gonna put a sampler on Arranger, those keyboards would be unafordable. Music Workstations are the ones that have sampler and stuff... Maybe some of you misunderstood this Roland G-70 ArrangerKeybord(ArrangerWorkstation), with MusicWorkstation/Sampler...

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#205271 - 09/15/04 12:18 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 1087
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Quote:
Originally posted by Vadim:

you want sampler on Arranger keyboard... never gonna happen(my opinion). ArrangerKeyboards were made primarily for live purposes, they also have a sequencer primarily for playing back MIDI files, if they gonna put a sampler on Arranger, those keyboards would be unafordable. Music Workstations are the ones that have sampler and stuff... Maybe some of you misunderstood this Roland G-70 ArrangerKeybord(ArrangerWorkstation), with MusicWorkstation/Sampler...


That'd probably be correct if samplers hadn't already appeared in Arrangers, such as the Yamaha 9000 Pro.
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#205272 - 09/15/04 02:52 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 1155
Quote:
Originally posted by Vadim:
VariPhrase was totaly useless(it`s just a vocal sampler) when I was buying my VA-76 i thought I will be able to record Audio into sequncer(because of the input), when I got more familiar with it I teried to sample a guitar and other stuff from CDs, that`s when I relized it only Vocal sampler, if it would have been vocal harmonizer it would be great but... it`s not...


you want sampler on Arranger keyboard... never gonna happen(my opinion). ArrangerKeyboards were made primarily for live purposes, they also have a sequencer primarily for playing back MIDI files, if they gonna put a sampler on Arranger, those keyboards would be unafordable. Music Workstations are the ones that have sampler and stuff... Maybe some of you misunderstood this Roland G-70 ArrangerKeybord(ArrangerWorkstation), with MusicWorkstation/Sampler...


Remember that the genesys has the arranger, sequencer, sampler and harddisk recorder. The korg pax if I am not mistaken also has a sampler. Adding samples to a style is becoming another way of making a style more interesting. Keyboards today whether "arrangers" or "work stations", should not be with out the ability to load or create samples. I just can not see myself having a keyboard in the future with out a sampler and a sequencer.
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#205273 - 09/15/04 03:50 PM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
karlo Offline
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Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 19
Gem, Pa1x, pa80, 9000pro, ketron SD1 have a sampler. Why there will not be a sampler in G70? Because if I have sampler on arranger, one day I'll have a wish to upgrade some drum kit. But Roland is No. 1. in drum sounding and save this thing only for himself, on the next 2008's year arranger.

Better approach for good sell is sample player in arranger, and offer some roland's expencive empty flash card, than srx rom cards.

If g70 has option for changiging kick or snare during live performance, without changing drum set, it will be nice.
I think that more lock options in 'prf' (user program) will be nice too.
And it's time for Roland to offer us some free software for making styles.

I'm loyal to Roland through past 10 years (W30, E16, E86, g600, G1000, Va7), but only weight and dimensions rejoin me from buying Pa1x.
Now I'm waiting something, but I'm affraid in vain.

That's my opinion, sorry my English is bad.
best regards.
karlo


[This message has been edited by karlo (edited 09-15-2004).]

[This message has been edited by karlo (edited 09-15-2004).]

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#205274 - 09/16/04 07:35 AM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
Anonymous
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Don't forget that the new G-70 comes with the mark/jump features, excellent when playing midi files (the ones that we find on discover 5). Now we can play either midi or styles, almost in the same way.
I don't find the sample feature so useful. Otherwise, fade in and out buttons, half break, reset tempo and 4 way audio out from G-1000 are welcome.

G70 still misses the mp3 player, wich would be fantastic with the mark/jump buttons.

Will roland make an 61 keys/speakers model of the g70?

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#205275 - 09/16/04 11:30 AM Re: Roland's New Pro Arranger - G 70
Vadim Offline
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Registered: 07/13/03
Posts: 321
ahha... so Roland G-70 certainly is missing an up-to-date gizmo!
[VA-76 at least has a VOCAL sampler,]

What is exactly added to the sequencer?
Are sounds taken from Fantom-X?


---still no pictures?

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