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#200810 - 11/08/07 09:59 AM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Sorry...I meant "Steve".
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#200811 - 11/08/07 10:09 AM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Sorry...I meant "Steve".


Not a problem Ian, I thought it was a typo anyway. Any friend of Bill's is a friend of mine anyway.

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#200812 - 11/26/07 07:50 PM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
tino1 Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 18
Loc: san jose ca 95127 usa
Everything must be better than ketron audya .

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#200813 - 11/26/07 08:06 PM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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tino please elaborate on your reply.

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#200814 - 11/27/07 03:41 AM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
When you wish upon a star...

Tyros 3 = Expectations

61 FSX Key-Bed (with "Intelligent Expansion" for emulation of full 88 keys )
Super Articulation Voicing
192 Polyphony ( could be as high as 256 )
Fire Wire 800 for superb audio recording
USB 2 ( front and rear ) Flash Drive inputs
USB 2 -to host
HDMI / with HD Losses 5.1 Audio
Toslink Optical out
New Advanced "True Guitar" mode with coverage to 14th fret / with Harmonics
On-Board Speaker System with Servo Bass Driver
2 Lower voices
3 Upper voices
Bass On Demand mode
Organ Pro Mode / with modeling and true B3 Emulation
SQVGA Display ( adjustable angle )
Virtual Drawbars
New Triple F/X Control System ( pitch bend / modulation / ribbon )
32 Track Sequencer
New "True Piano" mode with 88 key sound abilities
512 Base Ram / expandable to 2 Gig
Built in 64 Gig SSD
Super Arpeggio Synth Emulation / with virtual sliders and knobs
Newly Designed rotary "Data Dial" / with push down "Enter" function
Dedicated USB keyboard in-put for data management.
New "Blue-Tooth" internet connectivity as well as other TBA functions.
New "Design A Style" function
Built In Sampling
Newly designed Vocoder with "True Voicing" technology
Macintosh and Linix support

Have fun !
Gary 

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#200815 - 11/28/07 06:25 AM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
LIONSTRACS Offline
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 664
Loc: Italy
Hello jedi
do you have copied this all features from the MS?
You have forget to update your styles engine too: http://www.lionstracs.com/demo/qranger/Qrangermarkers.jpg http://www.lionstracs.com/store/information_pages.php?info_id=34
then your T3 will be complete!
cheers

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#200816 - 11/28/07 12:39 PM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi Lionstracs ,

That sounds like it might fit !!

I did have on my T-3 wish list a new function called design a style , but I`m sure the 2 can live together.

All we have to do is convince Yamaha to build it !!

So then , IF , someone from Yamaha is reading this post , please make this happen.

There have been other great ideas as well.

The T-2 is getting "long -in -the -tooth " so to speak and I have no doubt that you are hard at work with a replacement , but don`t take to long .

Take care ,
Gary 

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#200817 - 11/28/07 12:42 PM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Dont be surprised if you never see a T3....but a new series Totally different.

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#200818 - 11/28/07 03:22 PM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
As I've said before, usually, arranger design trails workstation design. That is, you'll usually see something radically new in a company's WS line first, then it gets ported over to their arrangers.

I don't see anything radically new from Yamaha lately... in fact, the latest thing to make it to the Motif line is a port of the SA voice concept, so to be honest, I wouldn't wait for anything radical to come along for a while.

Unless (sigh!) the try to go down the audio loop sliced dead end that several others are heading. Initially impressive, but a dead end nonetheless. If Yamaha want to make arrangers more realistic, they ought to stick to finding ways of making MIDI instruments firstly more real 'sounding' (which they have with Mega and SA voicing), and then, far more importantly, how the 'behave'.

I would happily go back five years of sonic improvement to get a chord behavior that doesn't jump around as you play different chords... Some kind of 'intelligent' system that looks at the LAST chord played by the arranger for any sound, and plays the NEXT one without block jumping, and just does an inversion change for smooth voice leading.

I know this is unpopular, but I, for one, would MUCH prefer to hear a less than perfect sound get played as if it were by a human, than listen to sonically perfect sound get transposed around like a jackrabbit..! That IMMEDIATELY brands it as an 'arranger' part, IMO.

Korg's implementation of Guitar Mode is one of the first things (along with Roland's Adaptive Chord Voicing - still in it's infancy, IMO) that make an effort to make the arranger play the chords as if a real person were playing them, not merely transposed little chunks of MIDI data which is what you get right now...

Mind you, given Yamaha's terror of competing in the 76 key section of the market, despite numerous customer requests, getting ANYTHING from Yamaha that you want may be moot...

My guess is that they will roll some VERY questionable audio loop capability into a T3 (and forget about easy import and importing other loop libraries - even now, ALL their sampler equipped keyboards are incapable of importing any libraries other than their own, overpriced and under-produced titles) and charge even more for it...!

Way to go, Yamaha!
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#200819 - 11/29/07 01:16 AM Re: Your HOPES & DREAMS for TYROS 3?
jedi Offline
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Registered: 02/07/02
Posts: 1125
Loc: Merrimack, N.H.
Hi Guy`s ,

Tyros = 2002
Tyros 2 = 2005
Tyros or whatever ?

The T-2 has a HD system and it`s getting to the point where it`s hard to find IDE 2.5" HD`s , that may be a hint.
USB 1.0
Really old PC monitor output , might be ok , but HDMI will be the way to go , even for PC`s.

So in the end there are a few things they could up-date.

It may be a completely different from the Tyros as we know it , it should have speakers built in , IMO !

I guess we will have to wait and see

Take care,
Gary 

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