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#199199 - 12/17/03 08:12 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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I heard the PSR3000 is very similar to the 2100 but will have a smart media card slot like the Karaoke model....no improvement with the keys???
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#199200 - 12/17/03 08:44 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Reseda, California USA
Fran,
I hear that the PSR3000 is more like the Tyros then the PSR2100. It has Mega voices, a large color screen, vocal harmonizer, storage via USB storage devices, 128 note polyphony. Although is has speakers and probably more the size of the PSR2100 then the tyros, I would think that with 100MB of sampled sounds, we should expect to hear more the Tyros quality rather then PSR2100.
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#199201 - 12/17/03 08:56 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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The PSR3000's price & features certainly sound appealing, but I think the real deal maker/breaker may come down to whether its 'key feel' & build is significantly improved over the PSR2000/2100. - Scott
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#199202 - 12/17/03 09:36 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
Quote:
Originally posted by George Kaye:
Fran,
I would think that with 100MB of sampled sounds, we should expect to hear more the Tyros quality rather then PSR2100.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California


I would think so to George. Since the PSR 3000 is going to actually have 4 "Megs" more of WAV ROM than the Flagship Tyros has.

If it has 4 megs 'more' than the Tyros currently has; I would expect it to perhaps even "surpass" the Tyros in sound quality. If that is the case, then the Tyros will be quickly forgotten as the premier Arranger on the Market and by those that esteem it so dearly and with the PSR 3000's price point, it is sure to be a big hit with Arranger Keyboardists and even those who are just starting out playing Keyboards in general. I don't think most current owners of the Tyros will sell their Tyros to get a PSR 3000 but they may get the PSR 3000 as an additional Keyboard to the Tyros in their Keyboard arsenal. Which btw, Yamaha couldn't be happier about that prospect. And those who currently own a PSR 2000/2100 will be tempted to get the PSR 3000 if all the dream features on the PSR 3000 are true. The Dream features I'm talking about are: better Key Action (comparable to the Korg Pa1X/Pro), wider Keys (if they aren't wider some people wouldn't buy it because of that), Superb quality internal speakers with mind blowing (and ear popping) sound, light weight, superior built in Vocal Harmonizer (without the need of upgrading, eg., TC Helicon and Korg Pa1x/Pro scenario), superb Styles and Multipads, and as I also stated - superior quality Voices. We already know the LCD screen will be similar to the one on the Tyros and that the PSR 3000 will have Broadband connectivity plus you will be able to use an external Hard Drive or Flash Drive with it. The internal memory is 2 mb's which is better than a kick in the pants and it will have 128 note Polyphony. And we also now know it will have the Mega Voices. If it has more and a wider variety (beside Guitar and Bass) of the Mega Voices and if you can actually play them live with no hiccups like you can with the Pa1X/Pro's RX Technology that will be a HUGE accomplishment for Yamaha and will put the PSR 3000 on most Arranger Keyboardist's wish list IMO as a MUST HAVE Arranger Keyboard.

Best regards,
Mike



[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 12-17-2003).]
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#199203 - 12/17/03 09:48 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
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Registered: 06/09/02
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Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
If this is smaller in size like the 2000/2100 with good sound and the most used good sounds and doesn't weigh a lot, I would consider getting it to replace the Tyros. Just speculation of course. If it should sound like the PSR2000, then its not for me, I would definately stick with the Tyros. I did an A/B test again this morning, and there is a major difference in tone. I really do prefer the size of the PSR2000, a lot easier to move keyboard that the "bulkier" Tyros plus carrying case.

My prediction is that those mysterious places that look like you can plug things into the inside of the Tyros that we have heard about, will in fact be used with "boards" to update the new Mega voices for horns, strings etc. Maybe even one of those samplers that everyone wants but nobody uses. Remember Yamahas'survey? That was the results on the sampler. haha.

Any bets on this one?

Scott

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#199204 - 12/17/03 09:58 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
Islander Offline
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Registered: 01/18/03
Posts: 67
Loc: Dallas, Texas, U.SA.
I hope the new PSR 3000 is a version of the flagship Tyros but with speakers and maybe plug in boards availability!! I hope it looks silver also.

Johnny

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#199205 - 12/18/03 02:27 AM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
YamBox Offline
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Registered: 08/08/03
Posts: 74
Loc: Finland
PSR3000 sounds good to me. It could be my next kb.

Any pictures available?

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#199206 - 12/18/03 06:41 AM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
Clif Anderson Offline
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Registered: 02/17/00
Posts: 532
A couple of features I wonder about:

Does it have aftertouch?
Does it have stereo line inputs (e.g., for mixing in sounds from a laptop or module).

Also, the Motif ES 175MB sound set has been well received, so maybe it will appear in a Tyros replacement.

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#199207 - 12/18/03 07:50 AM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
I honestly feel that Yamaha will make; in fact, (they are already busy making) a replacement for the Tyros and its not going to be the PSR 3000 IMO. Just as Yamaha did with the PSR 9000 series I think Yamaha WILL make a Tyros PRO Keyboard with 76 Keys. And don't look for it to have just '100 Megs' of WAV ROM like the PSR 3000 will have but more like '200 or more Megs' of WAV ROM. The Polyphony will be the same as the existing Tyros, ie., "128 note Polyphony" but the Tyros PRO will have "Expansion" capability to add Expansion Boards which will increase the Polyphony using certain add-on Boards. Also the Tyros PRO will have an on board Sampler like the 9000 PRO has BUT instead of up to 65 Megs of Sampling RAM look for the Tyros PRO to have at least 128 Megs and possibly (and more likely) up to 512 Megs of Sampling RAM capability. Although you will most likely have to buy the RAM separate and install it yourself or through a Dealer much like you do with other Yamaha Keyboards with Samplers, eg., Motif/ES/9000 PRO, etc. The Tyros PRO will have more Professional options and features (more inputs/outputs, etc.) and a more full featured on board Sequencer. And look for it to have all the new nice features that the PSR 3000 will have too, eg., (Broadband connectivity, and a TO DEVICE connection). Of course it will be OS updateable which I'm guessing the PSR 3000 WON'T be. Look for it to appear around Summer NAMM 2005 posssibly Winter NAMM 2005. And get this: the price point will be around $3,000 dollars. That will be roughly about $200-$500 more than the cost of the current Tyros.

NOTE: These are my speculations and NOT of course fact. My prediction of the PSR 3000's name came true. Will my prediction of the Tyros PRO come true also? Only time will tell. But regardless; there WILL eventually be a replacement for the current Tyros. That is a no brainer. The questions that linger are: will it be a PRO version like the 9000 PRO was to the 9000, ie., a 76 Key version with more professional features and options? Or will it simply be a rehashed version of the current Tyros, ie., 61 Keys, etc. And maybe the new one will be called something else entirely - like the Yamaha "X-Treme" or maybe the Yamaha "T-REX"?

Best regards,
Mike
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#199208 - 12/18/03 01:38 PM Re: Preview of New Yamaha PSR3000
tonkan Offline
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Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 75
Loc: Sweden
If the PSR3000 hasn't got aftertouch, wich I guess it will not, it not for the average home user anyway!

Also acceptable drawbars is necessary to make it a consideration.

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