Your right Cassp. You can overwrite Korg styles with user styles. This is he right idea IMO. It would be great if I could overwite the polkas , techno, and piano styles (yuck) on my keyboard with user styles.
Starkeeper

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And we don't do that because...


Squeak, my Roland XP50 had a loop recording function that very easily could have handled multi-measure rhythms and styles. And, there could be many of them resident at the same time, all triggered by single keystrokes.

Oh wow, this is way too serious for what I intended

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Cassp, I know what you mean about the XP-50. I used to have the XP-60. That was an awsome feature assigning patterns to the keys. Plus you could use that method to record. My old Yamaha EX-7 did this too, but it was a strictly a performance feature, and could not be used for internal recording.

Squeak

Fun doing the troll-thing to get some action going ain't it? And so healthy for a forum, but most people don't get it...

Anyway, screw it all... as I write this I am in the middle of a massive project to record all of my midi files through my 9000 Pro into my computer to be recorded as MP3 files. These will go into my laptop for playback as accompaniment when I play a grand piano, which is happening more often these days (twice this week). In fact, this is the culmination of much hand-wringing and self-recrimination over using recorded tracks on stage, which I've never done until now. I've been using my midi files and Yamaha's defunct XG softsynth and trying to get something approaching quality sound out of my laptop, but it's just not working out. It'll never sound as good as my 9000 Pro, and I don't know what the point is to try to make my laptop into a SMF player anymore. As usual, Yamaha has been no help at all - there's been no upgrades or replacements for the SYXG50 program in a long time and probably never will be. So now my laptop will be used as an MP3 player, and once I get over that shock I may even just use a cheap little MP3 player with my Motion Sound KP-100s for acoustic piano backing.

This has nothing to do with arrangers (like many posts here these days) except to show how little arrangers apply to my gigs lately. They aren't much use with a grand piano. I suspect the next-generation arranger will use MP3 files for styles anyway so maybe all this recording work is inevitable anywho.

Jim, I have been working that way with the band for 3 years..

I add additional vocal backgrounds as well..we work primarily as a trio..two keyboards and lead vocals..

You are right..this is the easiest way to have the quality sounds you are use to..I record my G1000 this way..Until recently this was the only way I found to get quality synth sounds to MP3...but my Hyper Canvas does a super job, converting sequences to wave/MP3...

Oh, my God!!! Don't do it!!!
Do not convert any sounds to mp3 if you plan to use it as a style sometimes again. You loose quality of your original sounds if you do so. You will never get them back into wave-quality!!!

CASSP: You're right to say good arrangers create their own styles. All my sounds and styles I'm actually using are self-made products. Okay, some sounds were originally made by factory but I bought my synth so I have the right to use the sounds in all ways I want to (including the right to sell each sound I created on it).

SYNTHMAN: I hate you!!!

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Sheriff ;-)

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Actually you could use a product by Moog called the PianoBar. MOOG Music PianoBar

This device sits at the back of the keys on any acoustic vertical or grand piano and generates MIDI note and velocity data. This data is then used by the PianoBar module to access the internal sounds and also to control external MIDI equipment.

What's another $1495.00 for the pleasure of playing a real piano while still being able to use an arranger keyboard or module?

Dave


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this is quite interesting...I use the arranger functions on my keyboard quite extensively but hardly ever use the original preset styles. The presets may spark of the creative ideas but i always then modify it or pullit apart to create the grooves that i like....Its not difficult to create completely original patterns. Maybe what we ought to be doing is swopping original styles that we have created ....If i knew how toconnect my keyboard to the computer and store my files i would love to start our own library of original styles off. We could get jazz specialists to create that genre and blues specialists etc. We couldturn this forum into a whole new thing .....what do you think?

If Roland or anyone else did not want their styles copied and/or converted, then they should have written them in their own proprietary style language. But since they (and all other manufacturers) decided not to write styles in a proprietary format, they did so knowing fully well that the styles would be copied, converted, tweaked and reused.
R-

Do you (generic for anyone) want fries with that?