thanks guys,i got the roland DP8,how did this come about,well,i went out to buy a keyboard stand,i never bothered to get a receipt ,i get it home and find that the stand wont go low enough for when sitting down,so i thought ,right i will go and buy an office chair ,cause those you can raise and lower,in the shop they have one also a heavy duty keyboard stand,far better and a lot cheaper than the one i bought 2 days before,so now i have 2 stands and no receipt,so i took it back and exchanged it for the sustain pedal ,and now i,m happy ,mike