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#197475 - 09/02/04 12:49 PM Listprice PSR3000
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It seems that in my country the prices of the PSR3000 are going up. Also Musik Produktiv in Germany is raising the price from 1599 euro to 1654 euro. In Dutch shops prices vary from 1699 to 1825. A big shop and Yamaha Dealer (they have Tyros in stock!) has never seen the PSR3000 and still tell me it is not available yet and they will be the first ones to be selling it. Poor misguided people!! I am trying to understand what has happened to the listprice, but all sites have their own listprice - probably there is something strange going on.
What about America and the UK?

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#197476 - 09/02/04 01:00 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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$1499.00 USA

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#197477 - 09/02/04 01:57 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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PSR 3000: 1590€
Musicstore Koeln - Germany


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#197478 - 09/02/04 02:04 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Originally posted by Dnj:
$1499.00 USA


But this is not the listprice, is it?
According to different sites that should be 1795,95. Is that still the case? Or does everybody has his own listprice, like in Europe?

By the way, according to the money converter 1795,95 and 1499 dollars resp. are 1475,20 euro and 1231,21 euro.
How much is a ticket to New York ?

I found that the list price (RRP?) in the UK is 1400 Pounds (2060 euro, 2507 $) and it's sold for about 1100 pounds (1618 euro, 1970 $)
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#197479 - 09/02/04 02:14 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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1599.00 EUR - price at Thomann Online Cyberstore - Germany -- José.

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#197480 - 09/02/04 02:18 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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$1795 is the list price..$1495 is the average selling price.
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#197481 - 09/02/04 02:38 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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$1795.00 is the manufactures suggested list price and $1495.00 is the minimum price any dealer in the USA who sells Yamaha keyboards is allowed to advertise the product online or in print.
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#197482 - 09/02/04 02:59 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Route 66:
1599.00 EUR - price at Thomann Online Cyberstore - Germany -- José.


José, have you already ordered anything from that store? Do you happen to know how much EXTRA do they charge to ship any equipment to our country?

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#197483 - 09/02/04 03:48 PM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Route 66:
1599.00 EUR - price at Thomann Online Cyberstore - Germany -- José.


Like Musik Produktiv they also altered their price and its now 1655 euro.

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#197484 - 09/03/04 12:38 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Originally posted by drdalet:
Like Musik Produktiv they also altered their price and its now 1655 euro.



It's possible... But here's what I get when I search in their database: http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw10_artikel-170361.html
Another store with the same 1599 price is: http://www.musik-service.de/ProduX/Keys/Home/Keyboards/Yamaha_PSR3000_EN.htm
(although I do not recommend buying from them). But these stores have relatively big stocks so you could be right anyway and they can increase their prices in a near future when they need to renew their stocks...

-- José.

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#197485 - 09/03/04 12:43 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Originally posted by Luis.Santos:
José, have you already ordered anything from that store? Do you happen to know how much EXTRA do they charge to ship any equipment to our country?

Luis Santos



Yes, several times. It is my favorite online store in Germany. I think they have flat shipping costs to all the EC countries. They are very competitive for packages under 20 Kgs (or so). A bit less competitive over 20 Kgs. I had good experiences with them, so I'll buy from them again any day.

-- José.

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#197486 - 09/03/04 02:02 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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PSR3000 Full list price UK. £1400 Pounds.

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#197487 - 09/03/04 02:44 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Route 66:
It's possible... But here's what I get when I search in their database: http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw10_artikel-170361.html
Another store with the same 1599 price is: http://www.musik-service.de/ProduX/Keys/Home/Keyboards/Yamaha_PSR3000_EN.htm
(although I do not recommend buying from them). But these stores have relatively big stocks so you could be right anyway and they can increase their prices in a near future when they need to renew their stocks...

-- José.

That's what I mean: different countries have different prices, even from the same shop like Thomann
Thomann (click here)
And Musik Produktiv (click here)

I tried Musik Produktiv twice www.musik-produktiv.de : 1599 euro www.musik-produktiv.at : 1663 euro


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#197488 - 09/03/04 05:56 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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For who is interested.
I went to the THOMANN site and clicked the different countryflags. The prices have been calculated with the different TAX percentages like VAT etc. Here are the prices:
German/English/Portugese 1599 euro - 16 to 17.5%
Dutch 1655 euro - 19%
Austrian/Italian/French 1666 euro - 20%
Irish 1690 euro - 21%
Finnish 1698 euro - 22%
Swedish 1739 euro - 25%

If I go to Germany and buy the keyboard, I pay less than when I have it sent to me (not calculating petrol ), because the borders are open and I can pay the 17,5 percentage in Germany.

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#197489 - 09/03/04 07:12 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Crazy, isn't it?

Another strange thing is that the portuguese tax for this kind of stuff bought in Portugal is nothing between 16 and 17,5%, but 19%!...

-- José.

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#197490 - 09/03/04 07:25 AM Re: Listprice PSR3000
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Loc: Amersfoort, Netherlands
According to the site
Atenção: Todos os preços em nosso Cyberstore Internacional Português foram calculados com 16.00% TVA para todos os nossos clientes portuguêses.
So the price is the same as in Germany: 1599 euro. The Netherlands has 19% VAT and if I culculate 1599 euro against 16%, then with 19% the price should be 1640 euro, not 1655 euro. That means there is another way they calculate prices. It's a mystery.

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