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#195284 - 03/21/05 04:14 AM Re: software arranger
adimatis Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1159
Loc: Oradea, RO
hey everybody! thanks for all this information. i downloaded OMB and Live-Styler demo versions from their websites.
i am trying to get used to them, maybe is just the fact that i can not phisicaly touch the start/stop, intro, fill, etc. doesn t make too happy!
for sure, i could notice there is alot of nice and usefull features in this soft arrangers, but until at least i can hear their styles played with better sounds (vst maybe) i've got the impression of pour quality... no ofence to those who use this alot.
actually, i don t think there is anyone to use this programs just with their native sounds or just with gm sounds, right?
again, i don t know much about this... but learning!
but one day, when i'll get my pa arranger, for sure i'll play it with more enthusiasm, in the old and healthy way that i'm use with.
touch and feel! thanks!
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#195285 - 03/21/05 07:13 AM Re: software arranger
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
Quote:
Originally posted by adimatis:
but until at least i can hear their styles played with better sounds (vst maybe) i've got the impression of pour quality... no ofence to those who use this alot.
actually, i don t think there is anyone to use this programs just with their native sounds or just with gm sounds, right?
thanks!

The software arrangers have no voices, so they are not of poor quality. If you are using Microsoft Wave table, it will not sound good. This is not the fault of OMB or Live Styler. I don't use MS wave table, I use SynergiGS. It has a much higher quality soundfonts. In your original post you said, "i'd want a soft arranger that work with VST sounds and that is able to work within cubase sx host.". You do need those VST sounds to sound decent.
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#195286 - 03/21/05 11:58 AM Re: software arranger
Shade of pale Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 314
Loc: Allen, TX, USA
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Originally posted by Bluezplayer:
I use One Man Band. I am not sure whether it's the best, because it's been so long since I tried Live Styler or the other software arranger that hosts Yamaha styles, but OMB works fine for me in real time. Live styler seems to work fine for Frank Rosenthal, so I would guess it's also a very good program.

OMB does not open as a Vst, but you could sync it to Cubase using the freeware Midi Yoke drivers, which act as virtual midi cables inside of your computer and allow you to link two or more programs together.

Regards,
AJ

Bluezplayer, that's pretty interesting to me, so you can basically have 1 or 2 synths with a lap top with omb software, and do the live gig just like the arranger with live playing(well, sort of,I've been called "a casio wanna be once"), how do you handle drum fills, variation changes etc. there must be the way. Forgive me for asking silly question, I really was not aware of this. Thanks!
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#195287 - 03/21/05 12:05 PM Re: software arranger
adimatis Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1159
Loc: Oradea, RO
i am aware of the limitation of MS wavetable...
what i meant was pour quality of the arranger parts themselves. how clever the accomp. parts are, how nice the arrpegios are and so on.
and i said, even with this "pour" features, the soft might sound good useing some decent sf2 or some other sounds.
but really, nothing's compare with the true touch, wouldn t you agree with me?
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#195288 - 03/21/05 12:06 PM Re: software arranger
Shade of pale Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 314
Loc: Allen, TX, USA
sorry Bluezplayer, I just saw the answer to my question that you posted on another post.
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#195289 - 03/21/05 01:53 PM Re: software arranger
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
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Originally posted by adimatis:

but really, nothing's compare with the true touch, wouldn t you agree with me?

I might agree,but others would not.
If I had a 76 note controller keyboard, the touch wouldn't be much of an issue. The tonal quality of the accompaniment I have with my soft-arranger is superior to both of my keyboards, the only weakness, so far, are the lead/melody voices. Working on that. Both of my keyboards have 2 variations only, with my soft-arranger I have 4.
My Yamaha PSR550 holds 3 user styles, my Roland EM20 holds no user styles, my soft-arranger holds thousands.
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#195290 - 03/21/05 02:03 PM Re: software arranger
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi,
OMB & Live Styler both use psr styles. There are 1000's of these styles available for download. Some good some bad.

OMB allows you to edit these styles so that they sound good with your chosen soundsource be it softsynths or hardware synth.

OMB software has some styles in the program , but when you purchase the program, you can then load your own styles into the program.

I actually use my computer keyboard to trigger my fills, variations etc in realtime. You can set it up so that you pick which keys trigger which variations etc. You get used to it eventually.

best wishes
Rikki


Quote:
Originally posted by adimatis:
i am aware of the limitation of MS wavetable...
what i meant was pour quality of the arranger parts themselves. how clever the accomp. parts are, how nice the arrpegios are and so on.
and i said, even with this "pour" features, the soft might sound good useing some decent sf2 or some other sounds.
but really, nothing's compare with the true touch, wouldn t you agree with me?
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