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#194238 - 02/04/02 06:12 AM What to do with gear
brickboo Offline
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Do you guys haul your gear in and out of the house after every gig? Or do you leave it in the car over night for the next gig?

What I'm concerned about is the cold. Do you haul the gear in if it is going to drop to a certain temperature? Is the cold detrimental to the electronics?

Can the speakers be handled differently than a powered mixer etc ?

I just got to thinking about how much the neighbors and especially the wife will take to all the noise of opening and closing car and house doors in the middle of the night.

I don't think Scott has this problen in SF. I know in the Monterey Bay area it doesn't get very cold very often. Nor does it get hot very often. What a paradise. But I'll never be able to afford $1250 a month for a Studio Apartment there.

I think everyone in California is rich. Ha! Ha! Just a joke Scott!!
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#194239 - 02/04/02 08:09 AM Re: What to do with gear
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Extreme cold, heat and dampness are not your keyboard's friends. I would, at least, bring in the keyboard at night.

Eddie

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#194240 - 02/04/02 08:31 AM Re: What to do with gear
DonM Offline
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Move back to Louisiana, Boo. The cold won't hurt it here, but in the summer, the heat does.
I would never leave my keyboard in the car for very long. Heat is really bad for it, and it might get stolen.
When I used JBL Eon speakers, there was a warning included with them that said to not leave them in extreme temperatures.
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#194241 - 02/04/02 08:38 AM Re: What to do with gear
Scottyee Offline
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Hi Boo,
It actually DID snow here a week ago, at least a couple of snowflakes anyway . Quite a record for California though. Now, if I could only find that 'priceless' painting TonyW says I have up in my attic, maybe I could become rich too. Still looking
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#194242 - 02/04/02 08:55 AM Re: What to do with gear
Uncle Dave Offline
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OK, OK - you missed the joke entirely ! It's not about a "priceless" painting - it's a reference to that old mystery movie where the painting in the attic aged, but the person didn't ! I forget the actor, maybe Vincent Price? C'mon - who remembers this movie ????
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#194243 - 02/04/02 09:03 AM Re: What to do with gear
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I agree. Heat and cold are not good things for our boards. Display LCDs don't respond well at all to extreme temps, and sometimes just wont work at all when they get too cold. I made the mistake many years ago of leaving my old Technics board in the car on a day it was a bit too warm. The padding under the keys was compromised and after that, when I played the thing it was like playing plastic on plastic. Moisture is another killer. Contacts rust very easily. I would try to avoid leaving my keys exposed to extreme temps ( either way ) at all costs Boo.

"Korg" AJ

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#194244 - 02/04/02 09:10 AM Re: What to do with gear
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
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Loc: Muskegon, MI
Boo,

I know exactly what you mean. You get home from a job and it is 2am and you would like to just leave the stuff in the car until morning. We don't have the ideal climate here like Don and Scott do. We have extreem variations form 0 a few times in the winter to 95 a few times in summer. I always left my organ and amps in the trailer when I hauled around an organ. I often might leave my speakers, mikes, cables, and amps in the car overnight till next morning but I NEVER leave my keyboard out in these extreem temperatures.

In theory (and I'm speaking as an ex organ tech), the keyboard is no more fragil than your car radio or the computer that controls the ignition in your car. That was before built in hard disk drives and LCD displays. I just wouldn't do it. You get condensation when going from cold to hot. You get expansion and contraction going from cold to hot or the other way. This can stress solder joints and connections on the circuit boards.

Boo, you can leave the other stuff out till morning but bring in your keyboard. Put it next to you in bed and keep it warm.

Tom
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#194245 - 02/04/02 10:35 AM Re: What to do with gear
tony mads usa Offline
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Boo .. Long exposure to extreme temps is a definite no-no ... I am not sure if my kn6 came with such a warning, but I'm almost positive the HD did .... I remember when I played Cordovox (anyone else remember those?), if I left the main unit in the car overnight for the next gig, when I plugged it in ALL the notes would sound and I would have to take a hair blower to the panel to dry it out ...
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#194246 - 02/04/02 11:20 AM Re: What to do with gear
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Quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
OK, OK - you missed the joke entirely ! It's not about a "priceless" painting - it's a reference to that old mystery movie where the painting in the attic aged, but the person didn't ! I forget the actor, maybe Vincent Price? C'mon - who remembers this movie ????


This movie seems to be inspired by a novel written by Oscar Wilde (I don't know the original title, but has to be something like "The portrait of Dorian Gray").
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#194247 - 02/04/02 01:24 PM Re: What to do with gear
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I remember the Cordovox I had one, don't
remember the model # but it was the first one
that had everything in one box.
A great machine but I had quite a bit of
trouble with mine. Had it for about 2 yrs.
then got rid of it.
Must have been around 1977 I think !!!!!!
NOT!!!Enjoying the 9000 PRO as much these days
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#194248 - 02/04/02 01:36 PM Re: What to do with gear
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
[B "The portrait of Dorian Gray" [/B]


That's it !!!!!!


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#194249 - 02/04/02 01:49 PM Re: What to do with gear
tony mads usa Offline
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dlstarry ... I had the same unit ... the technician I used to bring it to (about every other week!) said one of the problems was that the 'tuning pots' for each note were too delicate to be in the amp unit, especially since the bass went through there as well ... I still have mine stored somewhere in the basement ... putting that box in the trunk of a car (big assed '75 olds) was no fun ... and then I went to the Fender Rhodes stage model!!!
I'm not familiar with the 9000, but am personally having a lot of fun with the kn6000.
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#194250 - 02/04/02 03:23 PM Re: What to do with gear
Clif Anderson Offline
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I wonder what measures might be effective protecting a keyboard from temperature extremes. There must be liner materials that address this issue.

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#194251 - 02/04/02 03:51 PM Re: What to do with gear
Uncle Dave Offline
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...note to self:
"Invent the keyboard thermos"
....... yeah, THAT's the ticket !
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#194252 - 02/04/02 04:40 PM Re: What to do with gear
dlstarry Offline
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Loc: MN. U.S.A.
HI: Tony mads usa
I went back to playing the organ after the
Cordovox.
3Yrs. ago I bought a Technics KN5000, still
have it.About 1yr. ago I bought the 9000 PRO
I realy like the keyboard it's great, BUT !!
I am a little bitter at Yamaha right now. As
many other's are.
So for now I say NOT!!!!!! Enjoying the
9000 PRO as much these day's
Denny
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#194253 - 02/05/02 06:09 AM Re: What to do with gear
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UNCLE DAVE,
At least everyone gets my jokes . ( most everyone) Dano
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#194254 - 02/05/02 06:54 AM Re: What to do with gear
Uncle Dave Offline
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Al-Gore-Rhythms ?
THAT was a joke???
I thought you were serious !


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#194255 - 02/05/02 08:30 AM Re: What to do with gear
DonM Offline
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As you know, I NEVER joke. This music is serious business, and should be treated as such. We certainly do not use Al-Gore rhythms out here in the Bushes.
Do you know that rithums may well be the hardest word in the English language to remember how to spell?
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#194256 - 02/05/02 08:42 AM Re: What to do with gear
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Yeah... that and Rhuhmbahs

Eddie

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#194257 - 02/05/02 08:50 AM Re: What to do with gear
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
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You know that the kid who invented that little plastic spacer that goes in the center of a pizza to keep the bag from glueing itself to the cheese made millions from that invention. Uncle Dave maybe the keyboard thermos will do likewise. How will it know when to keep the keyboard warm and when to keep it cool? Please write your book first.

I always thought that a logarithm was a birth control method for Catholic lumberjacks.
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#194258 - 02/06/02 02:41 AM Re: What to do with gear
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(....oh no, I need another aspirine.....)
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#194259 - 02/06/02 06:40 AM Re: What to do with gear
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Hot..Cold....How DOOOOO it know ?
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#194260 - 02/06/02 11:49 AM Re: What to do with gear
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You need to buy a battery-operated electric blanket.

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