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#186044 - 06/20/07 08:06 PM More PSR3000 problems
Beakybird Offline
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I was starting to have trouble with the pitch bend wheel on one of my two PSR3000's. This morning, the pitch bend wheel was completely dislodged. I use a gig bag with a sheet of mattress pad foam to cover the top of the keyboard. Maybe I'll get a hard case for my next keyboard.

Then tonight before my show, my power supply failed. It was three years old. Luckily, I always carry a spare.

This stuff is not built like a tank, that's for sure. At least it's lasted this long. Can't wait to get the PSR S900.

Yamaha should replace these keyboards every two years, not every three years.

Beakybird

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#186045 - 06/21/07 04:42 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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Beakybird -

Better watch it........the G70 gang will be after you to reconsider buying the S900
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#186046 - 06/21/07 04:45 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by zuki:
Beakybird -

Better watch it........the G70 gang will be after you to reconsider buying the S900


That probably wouldn't happen with the G70.....lets face it the S900 due approx Xmas time (Dec) will be the same durability wise, then you'll have the same post title with S900 in it

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#186047 - 06/21/07 04:53 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:
That probably wouldn't happen with the G70.....lets face it the S900 due approx Xmas time (Dec) will be the same durability wise, then you'll have the same post title with S900 in it



Maybe so....but hernia repair is more expensive than a new keyboard
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#186048 - 06/21/07 04:57 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by zuki:
Maybe so....but hernia repair is more expensive than a new keyboard



carrying most good speaker weight matches good quality KB weight

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#186049 - 06/21/07 05:00 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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Donny,

How about the Roland big band? The Yammy sure works well in this genre.
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#186050 - 06/21/07 05:08 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
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Zuki......
It gets kind of boring using all those Big Band Style intros over & over again to audiences .....but when you get to the meat of the BB styles there's more then enough to get the job done .....a little tweaking here and there & you can do any swing type song slow or fast using factory or Converted styles on Roland or Ketron units ...plus you get the
"IN LIVE YOUR FACE SOUNDS & DRUMS" that is very much lacking in Yammy Styles.

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 06-21-2007).]

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#186051 - 06/21/07 05:28 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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I have found enough different and varying big band styles for the 3000 from Tyros, etc that never have me repeat a style.

The guitars in the 3000 styles work well and sound great in the mix.

The registration setup is terrific.

The incredible smoothness of the yamaha variation and other 'on the fly' changes is unsurpassed vs other boards that I have played and dumped. I know when I hit a button, it is going to perform flawlessly.

I agree that the 'in your face' Roland drums, etc are beautiful, but I am not convinced the OS is easy enough to navigate live.

I'd bet you'll be back to Yammy

zuki
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#186052 - 06/21/07 05:32 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
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Originally posted by zuki:
I'd bet you'll be back to Yammy
zuki



Spoken like a true Yammy guy....
I dont want to take your money....
enjoy all your gigs and your Psr 3k

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#186053 - 06/21/07 05:50 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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Originally posted by Dnj:

Spoken like a true Yammy guy....
I dont want to take your money....
enjoy all your gigs and your Psr 3k




Thank goodness there's enough jobs for all of us - regardless of instrument type.

It's all about talent and using the tools at hand.

p.s. My 2008 Fridays are almost all booked now - the playing life is good

As I sit on the couch and enjoy the peace of the morning, I ponder on the notion that my 'work' today is nothing more than playing music for folks who look forward to my arrival - how sweet is that - thank you God.

I got home last night at 11:00 because a group of patrons wanted to just chat after the gig. One 86 year fellow who makes ties, went to his room and brought me 2 for my collection. I drove home with a smile on my face. - a lot different from the corporate world when my ears would be burning on the pillow at night from stress.

zuki
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#186054 - 06/21/07 05:56 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
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Zuki now your talking my language.....Ive felt your above sentiments for 40 years my friend.....(and that's before arrangers )

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#186055 - 06/21/07 02:39 PM Re: More PSR3000 problems
MacAllcock Offline
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Registered: 03/02/02
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My PSR3000 power supply has failed twice, in both cases it was the low voltage wire failing within 2 inches of the power supply brick. Once you have found the single screw beneath the Yamaha info sticker the supply comes apart quite easily. Chopping and resoldering the low voltage wire is then quite easy.

Thankfully both failures were indicated by intermittent connection when the wires moved so I never suffered a catastrophic sudden mid-gig power loss situation.
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#186056 - 06/21/07 02:57 PM Re: More PSR3000 problems
Beakybird Offline
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MacAllcock: Which wire is the low voltage wire? I would prefer to repair this pwoer supply rather than spend $90 on a new one.

It sounds like the G70 is a great board. But I need to have two identical boards. That way, I can edit and create files on my office keyboard and transfer them to the keyboard I keep in my car.

Two G70s would be too expensive for me, and I could not imagine lugging a G70 into my home and back to my car every day to go from home to gigs.

The PSR3000 is a good compromise. Too bad it isn't more sturdy.

Beakybird

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#186057 - 06/25/07 07:37 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
MacAllcock Offline
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Sorry about the delay!

The low voltage wire is the one going off to the keyboard. On my PA300 the high-voltage cable is detachable and comes in via a 2 pin connector. If you are looking at the label on the power supply with the bold font YAMAHA at the top, then the high-tension volts come in at the top and the low tension wire goes out at the bottom.

The screw that you need to remove is somewhere beneath the "MA" in yaMAha, you can just feel the indentation that marks the hole. Use a skinny cross-head screwdriver to remove the screw, or if you are unlucky it will be a torx "hexagonal star" screw instead. Having removed the screw, to open the housing you have to SLIDE the two halves apart lengthways (I cant remember which bit slides which way but there are hooks on one part at the low-tension end and if you try to prise the two halves apart you could break the hooks so take some care here). The grommet is also responsible for a little resistance as well, just to make things slightly awkward.

The low tension wire is soldered to the circuit board, the wire is coded with a white stripe so make a note (or take a picture?) before unsoldering. I think the wire pulls through the grommet so you can drag some fresh wire through, reterminate and do a neat job.

I just hope this is your problem, if you smell burnt plastic when you open the casing then you may have something more serious which I have not encountered (yet).
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#186058 - 06/25/07 09:01 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Beakybird:
Maybe I'll get a hard case for my next keyboard.


After these experiences... it shouldn't be a MAYBE. At least, not if you don't want the same thing to happen again!

Build quality has little to do with it. If you transport any keyboard on a daily basis in an inadequate case, sooner or later bad things happen. I use an ATA for my G70, despite the extra weight. I used the same case on my G1000 for eight years. I sold it (the G1000) in virtually showroom condition, and got back most of my investment.

A good well-fitting case is your passport to reliable equipment, and trouble free gigs...
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#186059 - 06/25/07 10:58 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
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That is just about the only sensible thing I've heard Diki say...
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#186060 - 06/25/07 11:49 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
Diki Offline


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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
That is just about the only sensible thing I've heard Diki say...


That's awfully sweet of you Fran...
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#186061 - 06/25/07 11:59 AM Re: More PSR3000 problems
cgiles Offline
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
That is just about the only sensible thing I've heard Diki say...


Ok, Fran, now it's your turn (to say something sensible) .

chas
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#186062 - 06/25/07 01:56 PM Re: More PSR3000 problems
zuki Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
That is just about the only sensible thing I've heard Diki say...


You're just being nice because he mentioned G1000
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#186063 - 06/25/07 04:20 PM Re: More PSR3000 problems
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
That is just about the only sensible thing I've heard Diki say...



Chas I already did!!!!
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