My local music store has a PSR2100 on sale for the same price as a PSR1500. Which would be a better a deal, and why?
Starkeeper

Starkeeper, I'd take the 2100. Granted the 1500 is newer, the 2100 still has some good features over the 1500. The 2100 will run multiple insert effects, and if I'm correct the 1500 only runs one. This makes a big difference when recording. Also the 2100 will give you the vocalizer. I honestly think the 2100 will handle polyphony better than the 1500. There was this thread a ways back I posted about a buddy of mine regarding poly issues. If it were me I'd take the 2100 without question.

Squeak

Thank you jamman for posting that link. I read it and am even more confused.
I should have mentioned, that I don't need a vocalizer, since I can't sing.
Squeak_D,
Are you sure about the insert effects? That IS important to me.
Starkeeper

I'd check with other members, but I almost certain that someone here told me a ways back that the 1500 only runs one insert effect. I'd suggest you go check out the manual

Squeak

RYFM ah Squeak.

I still say go for the 2100. It won't be long now and I'll have a new keyboard myself

Squeak

What??? What about your Casio? What model would you consider?

"I still say go for the 2100". Why?

I RYFM, but the only reference to insert effects, are the DSP numbers. There is a DSP1, DSP2, DSP3, DSP4. Not sure if these are the max effects. It doesn't say the PSR1500 has less then PSR3000. The manual for the PSR1500 is a combo PSR3000/PSR1500.
Hey, anybody know the answer to this question?
Starkeeper

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I have been reading these posts and I just got off the phone with the product manager at Yamaha and asked the question regarding how many dsp's on the 1500. The answer is.....the same as the PSR3000, plus......the polyphony on the PSR1500 is 96 which is completely dynamically allocated, which means you don't have some for the styles and some for the panel voices. All the polyphony is available for the whole keybaord.
Another addition over the PSR2100 for those who love playing drawbar organ sounds is the addition of 1 extra drawbar over the 2100 so there are now 9 drawbars.
If you want to get a PSR1500 I have several in stock and will do my best to beat any price you might have been quoted!Please Contact me!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
kayeland@aol.com

WOW! Same as the 3000's????? That's awsome. Starkeeper I'm going to pull a John Kerry here and flip flop on this one You may want to consider the 1500 if it has an extra drawbar, and the same number of insert effects as the 3000. Hats off to yammie for that one.

Squeak

Starkeeper,
I'll be keeping the Casio. Can't part with that beauty. I've created so many custom voices on that unit now, and custom registration set ups for it that I couldn't even imagine dropping it. Honestly my next board probably won't be an arranger. I'v had my eyes on the Motif ES-7, and plan on buying one of those. Just got to get this move out of the way and get situated

Squeak

if you don't need VH go for 1500.
USB and SM + usuable 3k like sounds ,better keys are hard to beat.
check PA 50 too.


1500 is all 3k with no Vocal Harmony and less sweet/kool voices+alittle less styles +no mega voices.

Pa 50 is pa 80 with less output,less expensive options but with SAME sound/function board for nearly 1/2 the price(ie-1000$).

read my explanation link. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/009086.html

Thank you George Kay and Jamman, this is very healpful.
The only scary part I saw was this opinion from Jamman, "2100's piano and some voices sound better(1500 ac piano is pretty lame".
When I demoed both PSR1500 and PSR3000 I could hardly tell the difference in the accoustic piano. George Kay assured me that there is a difference.
Starkeeper

Unfortunately, I live in Canada, and I would suspect that the customs duty wipes out and discount you might offer. You pay customs duty when importing into the U.S., and I would have to pay it again when it enters Canada. Will email you anyway.
Thanks
Starkeeper

1500's piano is regular piano sample-not live! like 2100 or 3k.but it's not that bad.sounds OK in the mix.just sounds a little outdated for a 2004 mid priced arranger KB.(1500 has only 16mb rom,2100 has 32,and 3k has 64mb).but as I said before function/simu efx wise(except VH)1500 is in same level with 3k.

I think I'll check out the 2100 again today, especially the live grand.
Is there a voice list for the PSR2100, PSR1500, PSR3000? I was looking at the PSR1500/PSR3K manual and don't see a voice list.
Thanks again Jamman for replying. Lots of food for thought.
Starkeeper

I checked out the PSR2100 again at Walter's Music and they just got in a PSR3000. So I did a head to head on both boards. The PSR3000 blows away the PSR2100. Unfortunately they didn't have a PSR1500, so could not compare the PSR1500 to the PSR2100, but it seems to me that the PSR1500 sounds better from memory. Unless the EQ was adjusted poorly on the PSR2100. If you make an adjustment to the EQ and then turn the keboard off then on, will the EQ not revert back to factory settings?
The salesman then informed me that the store has a 6 month no payments, no interest feature. Visions of PSR3K in my head.
Starkeeper