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#181402 - 08/10/07 02:06 PM Re: your input re kb amps?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Diki, I have to agree with Mo, every time you seem to be helpful or charming...you slip a backhand in there..

Were you picked on while growing up?

Mo, I weighed my K4 on a bathroom scale with the LeCover[cover] and the power cord...55 pounds..I am sure it could be in error[accurate]..It has two handles and can be carried[lifted comfortably for me)..

I have a young lady friend that uses the KC350..It sounds good[lounge gigs for her} and she mounts it on a pole...by herself..I think it weighs around 40 pounds..or less..
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#181403 - 08/10/07 02:30 PM Re: your input re kb amps?
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Mo,
Your roland shipped out today afterall. It will be to you Thursday. I adressed it as you explained to Gloria.
Have any of you tried to latest Yamaha StagePas 500? I think it sounds great and has alot of features, plus it's stereo and can be carried around very easily.


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#181404 - 08/10/07 08:59 PM Re: your input re kb amps?
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
thanks, George. guys, I always listen to what George has to say, so i'm going to include those yamaha pas units in my possibles because you can use just one speaker w/the mixer in it, and add the 2nd when desired for stereo and/or monitoring.

the knock on the smaller pas is that the echo
is not a true reverb and sucks (the bigger one has true reverb) however, none of the other amps discussed here
have effects as far as i can see, so i'd need to use my mini
Behringer mixer w/effects for vocals for them and small
pas systems too..

I also want to check on the new Behringer FX1800's, which
are reported to sound very good, have efx, are only $300-
but they can't really put out volume in spite of their 180w
rating. I'd need to see how much they will actually put out,
if I have to crank the knob way up but that's sufficient for
my gigs, then not a big problem. it's a convenience that i won't have to use outboard efx, don't understand how
all the others at twice the price on up can't include efx
while Behringer can in a bottom-price unit. but i did have
to return a Behringer powered mixer to George last spring
because it had so little power it was a joke. I'm hoping
their new kb amps are not that bad.

Now it's up to me to keep researching and to try as many
of these as i can..no substitute for that. btw, Diki, for years my basic rig was a JBL eon 10 bungeed to a carrier,
with a mini Behringer mixer strapped on top of it. I used
it as most would a kb amp..didn't pop it up a pole, just
kinda tilted it back like the kickback units. It was fine,
but i never got why all the jbl raves. when I substituted a
couple of older amps I had laying around the garage for years , just for fun, i was shocked I liked the sound much better. but those amps are problematic, that is why i'm now searching for a better setup. so your statement that every kb amp sucks compared to using a jbl is a very personal one--I would not say the jbl sucked, it was reliable, powerful, and clear--it just was kinda boring to me and lacked some enticing sexiness in the sound that I found in the amps.

what Donny and Fran are telling me about the Traynor and some reviews i saw on it make it very appealing to me.
If the K4 weight is too much, I'm hoping the K2 will
satisfy. i know when i put my old ART tube amp module
on the line from the kb I like the result, so I'll probably
love the tube preamp feature on the Traynors. but there's
still a ways I have to go before i decide..sooo...

THANKS TO ALL! yes, even you, Diki..and whenever I feel
you are right on i will always join by your side, as i have
done before, regardless of whether anyone else agrees.
Just leave your sniper's gun at your side and we'll get
along fine. peace.




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