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#171674 - 04/30/05 02:48 AM Re: Things change
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
bbc,
have you tried the SRX 11 inside the G-70? How does it sound? And, since you spoke of "effects of the host keyboard", how are the internal effects of the G-70? Do they allow you to tweak a sound, like the "Superior Grand" the way you could in a dedicated synthesizer like the Fantom X?
I am asking this because in my VA7 the effect processor was the real weak spot of the keyboard, to the point that I bought an external unit (TC electronic M-One XL) to have a better sound; I hope that Roland improved this in the G-70.
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#171675 - 04/30/05 02:50 AM Re: Things change
Sheriff Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 965
Loc: Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
I especially appreciate the FantomX piano, but concerned about how difficult (or awkward) it will be to midi it up to the Tyros with the 300 as controller. I fear access to arranger functions & buttons may be too awkward. Curious if and how many other members here trigger their arranger keyboard via remote controler kb...

I don't really know what you want to reach out, Scottyee, but if you try to use the sounds of two synths at the same time you should use a central midi controller - a computer with a sequenzing software.

You can use both keyboards as live manuals but you have to cycle one of them through your computer and from there you have to connect your both synths. This way provides the posibility for you to use all sounds (both kb) with your main keyboard via the computer and on your second (slave) keyboard you can use directly the one sound you've selected at the same time.

I don't recommend you to use your on-board sequenzer because it's built for internal use only. Of course, there are posibilities to record a sequence via midi direct into your on-board sequenzer but it wasn't made for live acts (too slow and too complicated).

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

[This message has been edited by Sheriff (edited 04-30-2005).]
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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
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#171676 - 04/30/05 03:59 AM Re: Things change
silva Offline
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Registered: 01/26/04
Posts: 152
Loc: Lisbon, Portugal
Hi, donīt forget RD 700 won the MIPA 2005.(Stage Piano) http://www1.mipa-award.de/nominees2005.htm#Keyboards/Software

Franky

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#171677 - 04/30/05 07:58 AM Re: Things change
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
AJ

[/B][/QUOTE]

Hi AJ

How are you my friend? Yes I was wondering the same thing until George Kaye stated that Roland will only sell the G70 through Piano and Organ stores and NOT general music stores!!! Can you believe that?

However, I still wish to try to the Korg Pa1xPro which Alto also does not carry. Maybe if you and I both bother Chris in keyboards he'll relent and put one out on display or get one in for us to play with.

On the whole, I'm very happy with Alto, they are great to me and help me when I need equipment fast or if something breaks down.

We should plan on meeting there someday in the future to say hi to each other.

Regards,
Al

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bluezplayer:
[B]Al

Do you think we'll ever see a G70 at Alto ?

Great store, maybe one of the best in all the land even.. but I don't expect to see one there. I'd love it if someone close by had a floor model though...
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#171678 - 04/30/05 08:00 AM Re: Things change
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 2866
Loc: Tampa, FL
Dreamer,

You know something, I think I played the RD700. Is that the same board as the R700?

But your right, I forgot all about this board. I remember it having great piano sounds. Thanks so much for the reminder, I'm going to have to take a closer look now that you mentioned it. Thanks for the great advice!!!

Regards,
Al


Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Al,
if you are interested in a master keyboard with excellent piano sounds I suggest that you give a look at the Roland RD 700 SX: it has both the Fantom piano (which I believe is a Yamaha) and the new Roland piano found on the SRX-11 card (which is a Steinway). Both pianos were sampled at four velocity levels, note for note.
As a master keyboard it can have up to four zones and can trasmit bank and program changes to two separate midi outs. You can save all your settings (internal and external) in registrations (or whatever Roland calls them), both internal and external (it has also a USB connector).
All in all, it has a lot of interesting features, including two SRX slots and, by the way, costs a lot less than the G 70, which has NOT the same master keyboard functions.

Roland 700 SX

[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 04-29-2005).]
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Pa4x - LD Systems Maui 28 - Mackie Thumps

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#171679 - 04/30/05 08:03 AM Re: Things change
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
Al,
the RD 700 SX is an improved version of the RD 700, in that it has both the same piano as the Fantom X and a brand new piano, found also in the SRX 11 card.
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#171680 - 04/30/05 11:08 AM Re: Things change
bbc Offline
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Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 45
Loc: France
Andrea,
All SRX card use preprogram performances which are the combination of canonical sounds and mixed effects. If the host keyboard doesn't have those effects, the final sound will miss a part.
I don't try yet the srx11 card in G70.
In the XV88, when you put "multi-effect" on, I heard the more hammer sound and resonance on the basic sound of the note, like you put your ears near the chord and piano mechanism.
Some people have pb with S series of Fantom on http://forum.fantomized.info/?action=show_all&fid=9

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#171681 - 04/30/05 11:09 AM Re: Things change
bbc Offline
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Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 45
Loc: France

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#171682 - 04/30/05 11:51 AM Re: Things change
Dreamer Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
bbc,
thank you for your reply and also for the link you gave me.
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#171683 - 05/01/05 12:30 AM Re: Things change
YamahaAndy Offline
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Registered: 02/20/05
Posts: 88
Micco,

I am from Finland and I have a Tyros in my studio too.

I read that you are interested in a synth. I would not choose the Korg Triton Extreme, Oasys or Karma. I have a Korg Trinity myself and what I like the most about it is the user interface and the edit features. However, I have always thought that Korg cannot make good sounds in every sound category. For instance the pianos, especially the accoustic pianos in the Korg Trinity are very bad... If I would go for a Korg today I would probably choose the Korg PA1-X, but today I wouldn't choose a Korg.

When it comes to sound quality you need to be aware of the current trends. Within the upcoming 10 years softsynths will be all over the place. I have NI Elektrik Piano and I was really chocked about how good it sounded when I first heard it! The price is 199 euro, compare it with a stomp box for a guitar... It is only a matter of time before softsynths sampled at 192KHz@24 are becoming a standard. Companies like Native Instruments and EastWest are going to come out with killer packages that really blow away the competition completely. With a Laptop and a firwire audio interface you can do any gig you like too with the power of a computer.

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