Hi guys,
I have one (?simple?)short question...what is the best new 61 key arranger keyboard without speakers(in global)?Is that Tyros only??

Best regards from Zagreb, Croatia
sLOWER

In my MOST humble opinion it is the technics kn6000... ..but ALAS, it has onboard speakers, so I guess for your use, it is not perfect!!!
t.

The Tyros, of course (this is a non-biased opinion) -- José,

I don't think the Roland G70 has speakers either. Why is it important NOT to have speakers?
Starkeeper

Allow me to take it to the 'next' level and say it's: "MY TYROS" specificly , cuz only it includes all of my personally tweaked setting: from custom MusicFinder song database to custom Regs, syles & voices. - Scott

Yep,

Scott's Tyros!

Gary

Except Scott's Tyros, the best arranger for the money is

the one YOU feel comfortable playing with,
the one YOU like the way it sounds,
the one YOU feel has the better styles.

There are only two top arranger keyboards with 61 keys and no speakers:
Yamaha Tyros
Generalmusic Genesys Pro

The choice is personal taste as to which one you like the sound of but the Genesys does have some features not found in the Tyros:

Out of the box the machine comes with a hard drive, CD drive for playback and recording.
32 track vs 16 track sequencer
sampling (not available on Tyros)
Hard disk recording of audio inputs (not available on Tyros)
semi weighted keyboard feel

Tyros has 128 polyphony vs 64 for Genesys
Tyros has color screen

Almost all other features including vocal harmonizer, sound editing, performance memory, music assistant are the same type.

It becomes which styles, sounds and operating system you like better.

I sell both and people love both keyboards.

George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Thanks....
Why not speakers?I don't know...maybe because that reminds me on child,toyish synths...
G70?Well,it's to big...hard to transport.If there will be G50...who knows...

I was thinking to buy SD1plus(it's big like 61 keyboard,very good sounds especially drums) BUT heard some bad things about OS...

New Tyros?We'll see...

sLOWER

Thanks George,isn't Genesys much expensive than Tyros?

Matt

Genesys Pro is about $3500.00 at my store and the Tyros is around $2700.00. Remember though that you get a hard drive, CD burner and sampler on the Genesys which would account for the difference in price. I do wish the Genesys had a USB port though. It has a to host port type interface like the older Yamaha's had before changing to USB
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

...I never saw that synth in live...don't know if anybody has it here...

sLOWER

Wow, 800 $US for a HDD, a CD-RW (or only W?) and a sampler??? Hmmmmm,...what sampler is it? I think it should have a minimum value of 700 $US...


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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)

hi slower,there are quite a few members on this site that has the genesys pro,the problem is that many people don,t get a chance to try them out is because there are not as many distributers,but you can find details here,mike http://www.generalmusic.us/GenesysPro.htm

...heard something that GEM and Ketron have the same sounds...is it posible?

Matt

I'm still learning how to get the most out of my new Yamaha PSR3000, but so far, I love it!

Mute the speakers with a jack in the headphone outlet ...
But if you don't like the looks of the speakers on the keyboard...
Replace the speakers with tip trays. Thats right...
His & Hers tip trays and when you play out...
see if one gender tries to out-do the other.

MrEd...I saw some PSR3000 demos at Yamahas site...incredible keyboard...

Especially when you take into consideration, the price.

You can apply the Scottyee tweaking principles too.

There's a lot of function and capacity to mold it or to customize it to your personal liking.

...what about keys,how does the touch filling?

Matt

I don't know if you've read the past posts on the subject of key action and feel. Its been very much debated. Some like it and some don't.

I personally am very happy with the feel.
The keys feel firm with good contact, not sloppy like I have experienced on other keyboards.

...long time ago I had PSR 510...key action wasn't so good...so shalow...

Ketron and Generalmusic keyboards do not sound the same. What you might have seen is that there is a distibutor in Germany who's company name is "Solton".
Solton used to be the brand name Ketron keyboards were known as. You would see on a Ketron keyboard a large name "SOLTON" with a smaller "by ketron" below it.
This is because Ketron made keyboards for this German distributor with the distributors name "Solton" on it.
A few years ago, this distributor decided it wanted to sell Generalmusic keyboards as well as Ketron keyboards and so Ketron stopped naming their keyboards Solton and only put the Ketron name on them.
Generalmusic took their Genesys keyboard and called it "Solton SG1" which confused a lot of people because they thought Ketron was making this keyboard and not Generalmusic. However, it was really a Generalmusic Genesys with the distributors name it wanted on it.
This is really confusing, I hope you understand.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

...yes,I understand...some time ago friend told me that about "same sounds" on GEM & Ketron...so,it's not true...Thanks

Hi George.

I too wondered what the history was on those companies. When I was thinking about getting back into midi-accordion, I was looking into the sound/rhythm modules from thoses companies. They were pretty nice.

By the way, George...
Thanks for all your help on the PSR3000, answering my email questions and getting it shipped out to me as quickly as you did. I appreciate it.

Ed and all of my valued customers here at the Synthzone, I appreciate all the business you have given me over these many years. I have made so many good friends both on the phone, in person and over the internet because of you all. Your support has allowed me to grow my arranger business and become known all over the world and that's amazing for a small music store in Southern California (and I don't even have a website!). It always amazes me when I receive a call or email from someone across the pacific or atlantic ocean calling me with questions or to place an order because they read my posts here on the Synthzone.
Thank you all!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Thanks George for your comments/report. Your opinion is very appreciated and respected in this forum.

Regarding to the 61 key arranger keyboard, the speakers doesn’t matter, you can mute it if you like. For me the best is Korg PA1X.

Franky

KorgPA1x is up there & the best of all.
(too bad, it has speaker!).