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#1694 - 04/16/05 02:56 PM MIKE - An Obscene Email
hand made music Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 14
Loc: UK
I would like to bring to the attention of the users of this board an email, which I received from a person called Mike. (corkeysgifts@hotmail.com)
I wonder if this attitude is echoed by other users of this site, which is supposed to offer information and an open forum for people to discuss products, services and personal opinions.

This email was sent, following my postings with reference to my companies new website, offering high quality Keyboard products at fair prices

The text below has censored, due to its obscene nature.


SENDER = mike (corkeysgifts@hotmail.com)

SUBJECT = Thanks for nothing

= MESSAGE =

thanks for sh***ing on our bulletin board with your commercials.

may you and your sh** products rot in hell.
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#1695 - 04/16/05 05:59 PM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
rattley Offline
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Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 768
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
At least "Mike" sent you a personal email and did not flame the whole group. He may have used strong language, but I understand where he is coming from. I too frown when peddlers sell here...................-charley

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#1696 - 04/17/05 12:10 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
hand made music Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 14
Loc: UK
I'm sorry I cannnot agree with your sentiment.

That email amounts to abuse and although you may feel that my posting was inappropriate, it is not a good enough excuse to send that kind of communication.

I have no doubt that my posts are relevant to this forum and that users who visit my site will find only the highest quality products.

If you are not interested in them, you don't have to visit the site. It's that simple.

I thought you would have encouraged someone who is provides high quality styles, midi files and registrations. After all, there are many, many posts from others who are seeking these products.
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#1697 - 04/17/05 02:14 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
Nigel Offline
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Registered: 06/01/98
Posts: 6202
Loc: Ventura CA USA
Quote:
Originally posted by hand made music:
I thought you would have encouraged someone who is provides high quality styles, midi files and registrations. After all, there are many, many posts from others who are seeking these products.


Yes, vendors of support products are always encouraged to announce their products. It was your multiple postings on the one forum that obviously annoyed at least one member. I'll always support vendors but ask that they don't SPAM the forums. Simply make ONE posting on each of the relevant forums to announce your products. If you had just made the one posting on the General Arranger Keyboard forum and put the others on the forums where they belong there wouldn't have been the backlash against you.

I'm sorry for the abuse you received because that is not how I would handle things. But I hope that now you are aware that you actually created the situation we can just put this behind us. If you SPAM a public forum then you are going to step on some toes. There are other vendors that use the forums but they also contribute to the discussion as well as using the forums indirectly as a marketing tool.

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#1698 - 04/17/05 02:30 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 965
Loc: Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany
What's wrong with it?
If a vendor posts his offers in this forum you can decide for your own what is interesting to you and what is not. Maybe a new topic is needed for this - something like "Sell and Wanted". It's only a proposal...

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#1699 - 04/17/05 02:51 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
hand made music Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 14
Loc: UK
Thank you for your response and I sincerely apologise to anyone who feels that I have 'Spammed' the forum.

I have not posted the same messages, but simply advertised each item seperately, to make it easier for users to find what they are looking for.

It would be a great idea to have a page where people can advertise their products.

I know for a fact that my friend Simon Williams of SVP World has posted many adverts and links to his website.

I hope that he has not been treated in such a disgusting manner. Nothing I have done deserves such a response.

I hope that I can bring some useful information to this forum. I do not intend to use it as a free advertising opportunity, but as a place to bring useful products and information to the many who seek it.

I have been a professional musician and producer for over 15 years. I am not here to make a quick buck and run!
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#1700 - 04/17/05 07:08 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
3351 Offline
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Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 1194
Loc: Toronto, Canada.
Yup, Mike sure ... farted.
That's the best way to put it.

Okay, since this is a public forum and after all a bulletin board I see no reason for anyone not to advertise.
I mean it's not like you are advertising something totally different from what everyone in this forum talks about.
Had you been advertising Viagra, I'd also send you a couple of e-mails. Not as nasty as Mike's though.


So no I don't think that you deserved to be treated in this manner.


-ED-
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#1701 - 04/17/05 07:23 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
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Registered: 08/17/03
Posts: 1194
Loc: Toronto, Canada.
Quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff:
What's wrong with it?
If a vendor posts his offers in this forum you can decide for your own what is interesting to you and what is not. Maybe a new topic is needed for this - something like "Sell and Wanted". It's only a proposal...



Totally with you on that one,
Actually there is a "Wanted to Buy&Sell" section here.
But on the other hand I see no reason why someone can't post an add for styles, registrations and MIDI files in the Arranger forum.

Why not? It is hardly spamming.

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#1702 - 04/17/05 07:48 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 965
Loc: Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany
Well, the admin makes the law on this forum!!! If he says there's no way to SPAM then there really IS NO WAY.

On the other side the 'sell or buy' section might not be the way that became very useful for a vendor because the posting will fade away more and more with each new posting on that board. A static side would be the answer but it might be a little bit more work for the admin.

@handmademusic
You can locate a link under your subscription, so anyone see your link and will follow it if he/she thinks that your comments are good and qualified...

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Greetings from Frankfurt (Germany),
Sheriff ;-)
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#1703 - 04/17/05 08:44 AM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
hand made music Offline
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Registered: 04/16/05
Posts: 14
Loc: UK
Thanks for all your input on this subject.

I hope we can now draw a line under this and move on. No point in wasting any more webspace on it is there!

I have apologised to those who may have taken offence at my posts.

May music bring peace and understanding where words fail.
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#1704 - 04/17/05 12:48 PM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
shboom Offline
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Registered: 02/27/04
Posts: 741
Loc: Victoria, British Columbia
Group Hug....Group Hug!!!

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#1705 - 04/17/05 09:36 PM Re: MIKE - An Obscene Email
Nigel Offline
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Registered: 06/01/98
Posts: 6202
Loc: Ventura CA USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Sheriff:
Well, the admin makes the law on this forum!!! If he says there's no way to SPAM then there really IS NO WAY.


I have never had a problem with a vendor announcing new products in a posting. I just ask that they make just one announcement at a time not 3. If you are a vendor wishing to announce multiple products then announce them in the one posting in each of the relevant forums.

hand made music, you should include your website link in your posting signature. A number of vendors and websites do this so it appears in all of their postings whether they are business related or not.

There is nothing more to be said about this misunderstanding.

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