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#159246 - 04/26/06 09:46 AM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
Not really Dano. Thats little more than straight harddisk recording. I mean being able to create a track copy and paste and delete , not just pattern recording either . Proper sequencing

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#159247 - 04/26/06 10:57 AM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
Alex K Offline
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Registered: 12/03/99
Posts: 732
Loc: Phoenix, AZ USA
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Originally posted by spalding:
...Just makes no business sense to omit it. It having one would enable just 2 additional purchases of the isntrument , wouldnt that justify having one ? Would the inclusion of a sequencer have turned people off the SD5 or increased the sales of the SD1 ? I mean how hard could it have been to implement the existing SD1 sequencer into the SD5 ?


Spalding,

You are preaching to the converted (in a manner of speaking). I too would like a full-featured instrument (with vocal harmony, 16 track sequencer, a 100 GB hard disk, MP3 record/playback capability, etc), with 128 note polyphony, built in speakers, and light weight (30 lbs) sold for cheap ($1000). Only I also want 76 keys on it. We are both out of luck - this is not likely to happen. Even if manufacturers could build a keyboard like that for $1000, they are not going to sell it for that if they can charge more. Hence, we either have to get a top-of-the line keyboard (and pay accordingly), or compromise.

Finding it cumbersome to carry my 40 lb G1000, I don't want to get a 50 lb monstrosity, be it a Korg or a Roland. If someone wants to combine their gig with weight-training, the heavy weight will not be a deterrent to them. My problem is that there is no keyboard for any money that combines the requirements I listed as important to me, but that is a different story.

Getting back to your "makes no business sense" phrase - it may not make sense, but it is being done all the time. Remember Intel 486SX chip? - it was manufactured exactly the same as the regular 486 (DX), but then Intel would actually expend some effort to DISABLE the floating point processor already on the chip, so that they could have a lower-price, lower functionality offering which would not directly compete with their high-end product. I guess, Ketron decided to force you to choose between the sD5 and SD1, which, in addition to a full sequencer, also gives you a longer keyboard, sampling, built-in vocalizer, and hard disk.

Regards,
Alex
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#159248 - 04/28/06 05:28 PM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
Lucky2Bhere Offline
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Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 533
Would one of you guys mind helping me? I've read all the Ketron information in these postings. It's all Greek to me because I don't own a Ketron yet and can't follow the "terms" you use. I'm enthusiastic about buying one, and after talking to AJ I became even more enthusiastic. My problem is WHAT exactly do I buy? I'm a professional playing for many years. I'm not a hobbyist. I made a major mistake buying an expensive Roland once without knowing anything about it and I took a big loss. I guess what I really need to know, at this point is, as appetizing as the SD1 is with the upgrade sounds, should I wait for the SD5 or buy an SD1 with the "kit?" I do all live performing on stage and speed in the navigating of the keyboard is probably my biggest issue. Everything else, including what AJ told me, seems like it's the perfect board. I really would appreciate some comments. I spent 30 hours auditioning the G-70. If I had access to an SD1 I would spend another 30 hours on that.

[This message has been edited by Lucky2Bhere (edited 04-28-2006).]

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#159249 - 04/28/06 06:04 PM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
Alex K Offline
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Registered: 12/03/99
Posts: 732
Loc: Phoenix, AZ USA
I can not dispense advice regarding Ketron products, as I do not own one. I do know that their styles sound very engaging, though I think that after a while you may start wishing for less busy styles.

As far as navigation goes - IMO Ketron's system is a bit different from most other ones, and on several occasions that I had tried Ketron products, I felt a bit confused by their teminology (and I am not a technically illiterate person), and some of the details of their OS.

The only suggestion I can give you is - make sure you try the product you are considering, before paying money for it. This is especially the case with Ketron. If there is no dealer in your area, perhaps you can arrange with Ketron (or AJ) to buy an instrument with a 30-day return.

Regards,
Alex
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#159250 - 04/28/06 07:25 PM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
Lucky2Bhere Offline
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Registered: 03/04/06
Posts: 533
Spalding....can you tell me who did this recording or what you know about it?
http://republika.pl/korgstation/KETRON_SD5.zip

Thanks

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#159251 - 04/30/06 07:46 PM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Alex,
I have to agree with you.
Some of the terminology is confusing.
I'm used to calling styles :
" Styles " not patterns.

Intro's/endings, variations fills,
"Style Parts" not " Sections "

Drums, bass , guitar, phrases
"Tracks" not " Parts"

I read the SD1+ manual about 3 times before it really started to sink in. It is poorly written. There's no drum maps. I think some of the owners don't realize all the drums available to them (and the drums are an awesome feature of the keyboard.)
Don't think I've come across anyone yet who's used the "audio loop" function in a style. It's pretty amazing when you can sync an audio drum loop in a style.

It's a pity when a poorly written manual lets a great keyboard down. Spending the time learning the functions I wanted, was well worth it.

best wishes
Rikki


http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/makingstyles/


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Alex K:
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As far as navigation goes - IMO Ketron's system is a bit different from most other ones, and on several occasions that I had tried Ketron products, I felt a bit confused by their teminology (and I am not a technically illiterate person), and some of the details of their OS.
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#159252 - 06/07/06 03:48 PM Re: Ketron SD5 Review
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3585
Loc: Middletown, DE
Ketron SD5/SD2 demos here ...
http://ketron.groupfiles.com/folder.list.run

Thanks,

AJ
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