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#154677 - 04/25/05 12:09 PM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
Sheriff Offline
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Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 965
Loc: Frankfurt, Hessen, Germany
I guess for live acts there's no better way to play guitar chords on a keyboard like the methode that Starkeeper told. Maybe you wil try Don's six finger methode but be warned: "A guitarist doesn't always play all six strings together!"

In studio surrounding I use a sequenzer and many, many hours for a hand made accoustic guitar programming. There's no program which can play like a real guitarist. Fortunality I AM a guitarist. So I play the guitar part on a real guitar at first and then I program the sequence exactly like I'm playing it. You can imagine that this is a lot of work...

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#154678 - 04/25/05 12:13 PM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Not only do I not do it the same every time, I hardly EVER do it the same every time!
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#154679 - 04/25/05 04:38 PM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14194
Loc: NW Florida
One of the ways that works for me is to use two hands and split the keyboard, transpose the lower section to the same pitch as the upper and pick the guitar sound of choice. Then whang away with your left hand rapidly appoggiaturing (that's rapidly arpeggio-ing in one direction) upwards (for the pick's down stroke) and the right hand playing the same voicing appoggiaturing downwards for the up stroke. You can't easily do full 6 string voicing this way (too wide a chord for one hand!), but the rhythmic energy across 4 or 3 voice chords goes a long way towards giving you the energy that a rhytm guitar has. Perhaps try making the sound of the left hand split a little thicker than the right to emulate the weight that the downstroke usually has.

Have fun, and always practise to a drum beat - there are enough bad rhythm guitarists out there already!!

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#154680 - 04/26/05 01:15 AM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
Timo1 Offline
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Registered: 03/18/05
Posts: 48
Loc: USA
I think my method is closest to Don's

however you guys have given me some good ideas to experiment around with..

NICE THREAD!

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#154681 - 04/26/05 09:29 PM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
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Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 118
Loc: sacramento CA
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Speaking as a guitar player I should mention that the voicing of the chords can make what you do sound authentic or inauthentic. The strings of the guitar are tuned in fourths and thirds, so real guitar chords are built around the way these intervals fall across the strings. "Here Comes The Sun" is full of lines built from these intervals, as are many other songs.

Simple changes to the way you finger and invert chords will sound more or less real depending on how close your voicing aproximate the intervals on the guitar. Standard close voicings like you see in piano chord books are right out. Ask a guitar playing friend to show you a couple folk type chords and try to reproduce the inversions on K'bd. You can do a good job with just 3-note chords if you get the hang of the voicing.

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#154682 - 05/03/05 10:40 PM Re: How to make a good guitar strum
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Registered: 04/30/05
Posts: 38
Personally i use both hands to voice the chord and alternate the each hand. For example ...play the root and the 5th with the left hand and 3rd and oct with the right. (or 3rd and 7th etc). Alternate the hands to make the strum sound. This works good for a song like "things we said today" by the beatles that has a fast strum. With others...like Josie by steely dan...I use and open voicing with the right hand and alternate in a similar manner but just with one hand. Both techniques work well. For fuller sound...say on "ventura highway" by america...record another track...on psr2k use the 12 string on one and maybe a reduced volume chorus guitar on the other...or nylon...you can mix the volumes later tho. I've recorded many like this..."you've got to hide your love away" by the beatles is an example.

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