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#151314 - 10/06/03 10:25 PM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
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Quote:
Originally posted by Starkeeper:

"There is No Reality; Only Perception", Dr. Phil McGraw.
Starkeeper


So that meal you had for lunch was only perceived? > Yes; your senses, ie., 'sight' saw what you were eating but does that make it any less real? Try and convince your stomach that it is still hungry after eating your lunch and you became satiated Kevin. If the meal wasn't real but only perceived you would still be hungry. But since you ate the meal and became satiated you are no longer hungry. That is reality. In fact, in as little as 40 days you would no longer be amongst the living because the lunch you ate wasn't 'real' but only perceived according to you. And that's just taking into account FOOD. How about only perceiving water? You would kick the bucket in as little as 3 days. On your epitaph the fitting words: Here lies Kevin, oops!! I mean here kevin is perceived to be lying under this perceived 6 feet of soil. Get real!

Best regards,
Mike



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#151315 - 10/07/03 03:24 AM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Dnj Offline
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Are here any kn2600 demos to listen too?

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#151316 - 10/07/03 09:20 AM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Mike,
LOL. Very good Mike. I'll try to get real. I appreciate people who think outside the box.
I know there are Technics KN2400/KN2600 out there. How about some demos.
When I first got my Roland EM20 I loved the piano, especially the lower notes. When I got the Yamaha PSR550, I still loved the Roland piano.
Then after some tweaking I decided that I loved the Yamaha over the Roland. I could hear some distorsion on the lower notes, especially when playing more then one note at a time on the Roland.
Last week I was on holiday and played the Roland all week. When I came back to Toronto Sunday night, I played the Yamaha again, and thought to myself, that the Roland piano sounds better. ?????
So. What's my point. If I can't decide which piano I prefer after 2 years of owning both keyboards, then for two different people to have differing views is possible. It is very subjective, even though the differneces are real.
Starkeeper
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#151317 - 10/07/03 09:24 AM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
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Loc: Toronto
If Mike considers the Technics KN2600 organs to be thin, would I consider them to be thin as well? Hmmmm.
Star
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#151318 - 10/07/03 09:59 AM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
vic83 Offline
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Registered: 12/31/69
Posts: 610
Loc: Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Shakil:
If you will be using sequencer on the keyboard... then stay as far away as you can from PSRs... they have the worst sequencer.
What good is all that fine resolution, if the onboard sequencer is useless.

I have the PSR2000 for about two years now, and haven't recorded a SINGLE sequence on it. It's too much waste of time.

I am not sure about the KNs.


I agree. I don't know how much diffrient the PSR-2000's sequencer is from my PSR-A1000, but the sequencer is terrible and very unusable. I also tried to do some advance recording but found that I ran out of polyphony fast (only 32) which brings me to quesntion why the heck did yamaha even bother to put a sequencer in the PSR-1000/PSR-A1000/PSR-1100 when there isn't enough polyphony for the onboard sounds in the keyboard.

weird?
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#151319 - 10/07/03 10:32 AM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
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Registered: 02/04/01
Posts: 2071
Loc: Fruita, Colorado, USA
"KORG IS KING" for sequencing beyond the shadow of a doubt. I can sequence a tune and name it on my i30 before others can even name the tune on their arranger keyboards. Ha! Ha!

But, if you just play and sing and don't have a need to sequence like I do, most any arranger keyboard in my opion should do a good job. To me styles are more important than sounds. Sounds are more important to some others.

So, it's what turns you on and not what turns other's on. It takes a while to figure this out. After a couple of years of this squabbling, I've come to realize some still haven't figured this out. Get what you like and fulfills your needs. Not what I like.
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#151320 - 10/07/03 01:44 PM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi,
by the sounds of things , you are lucky to actually have access to try all 3 keyboards before you buy.

There's been posts from members who don't have the luxury of even being able to see one of them, let alone all 3 brands.

Wise move not to buy on the spur of the moment. Check them out and make sure they have the features you're looking for.

As for Technics
There are some good reasons for going for a kn with sd card functions.

Faster loading & saving of styles.
No disk swapping ( KN2600 doesn't have a floppy drive)
With optional Panasonic SD Audio Writing Kit( sd card reader & jukebox softeware) , you can play audio files on your kn.

If time spent loading styles from floppy into a kn2400 isn't a problem, then, you could save money, as I gather it's a fair bit cheaper than the kn2600.

best wishes
Rikki


[QUOTE]Originally posted by M.C. GATTO:

So I gave myself a break, and an opportunity to discuss these impressions with you guys.
I will go back on Thursday to make the final decision. Also, I will go back to try again the KN2600 and KN2400 (good alternative if one doesn't need SD slot)
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#151321 - 10/07/03 02:20 PM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
M.C.
Did you try the accoustic piano on the PA60? Korg is not famous for their accoustic pianos.
Star
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#151322 - 10/07/03 02:22 PM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
One more thought. You are choosing between PA60, PSR2100, KN2600 and KN2400.
Star
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#151323 - 10/07/03 02:42 PM Re: Need to chose between Kn-2600 and PSR 2100
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6020
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Bluebird,
I suppose if your first priority is a good onboard vocalizer, then a psr would suit you better than a kn.
Direct disk function wouldn't be as bigger issue if you were going for a kn2600, because the sd card loads styles and songs very quickly (roughly 3 to 4 seconds) wheras loading the same style from floppy ( kn2400) takes a fair bit longer.(
As for styles and sounds being better on one keyboard or another.
I tend to think it's in the ear of the beholder. I noticed sounds tend to grow on you. The 3 keyboards I had , all sounded so different. I prefer the sounds ( that I use to play melody ) on my kn7 to my ex 9000pro. To my ears , they sound more realistic. I preferred the ( melody) sounds of my 9000pro to my VA7.
As for styles, the best thing to do is try and play both , and see who's styles YOU prefer. Main thing to check is that the styles are going to be useable for you.
Most keyboards have a good mixture of styles, but one brand may do a better job on modern music like rock, pop, ballads, wheras another brand may do a better job of latin, marches, waltzes. If you only play rock & pop, then you'd be more likely to go for the one that does a good job on those styles.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bluebird:
[B]Well, I understand you, but....
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