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#137847 - 05/02/00 10:53 PM
Re: Solton X1HD and case with extras for sale
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/09/99
Posts: 1130
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Hey, give it a chance !!!
Seriously, you dont appear to of had it for more than a few days and you already want to sell it?? Surely, it cant be all that bad. You have possibly the best keyboard out there in the shape of the X1. It would be a travesty to sell it then later to find that it was the one after all, especially if you got it for a very good price as you say.
You appear to have a lot of extra features at a good price, not even I have some of the features/items you have, eg, vocaliser & carry case. What dont you like about the X1? If you miss the Yamaha styles, just say the word and we could send you the PSR9000 styles to you so you can play them on the X1. But surely, the X1 should of blown you away with its styles. I mean, the PSR740 is a great keyboard but the X1 is in a different league. If you got the PSR9000, you may find that its quite similar to the PSR740 that you already own, except of course its more professional and has more features.
Why dont you give the X1 another go before you make a hasty choice to sell it. Experiment with the styles on the HD, you have a lot of styles in FOLDER 1 for specific songs, they are brilliant.
DannyUK
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#137850 - 05/03/00 07:40 PM
Re: Solton X1HD and case with extras for sale
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/09/99
Posts: 1130
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Well you wont believe it but I also own the GEM WK8, however, my father is currently using it. Its a good keyboard but I think its best usage for it would be its songs/karoake feature in which it does so well. The sequencer is fantastic on it as well and the operating system is one of the finest. Its very easy to use and very versatile, not to mention it looks very smart.
Now the down side. I think it has average sounds (I dont think its in the same league as the X1 or the PSR9000 with its sounds) and its styles are only average as well. They are usefull but I dont rate them as good as the other keyboards. They tend to sound quite plain, certainly the first 3 variations of any style sounds quite 'shy' not to mention very similar when stepping through them. The X1 has got to be the best keyboard for style variations, a lot of the styles on the X1 are just so different in the 4 variations, it really adds spice to any song you play.
By all means, try out the WK8, but I certainly would try it out thorougly before you exchange it with your X1. Believe me, you have an excellent keyboard in the X1, you cant go wrong.
As for the orchestral sounds in the X1's styles, if you dont like it you can turn them off OR just change/fade them out. The options are endless, you just have to spend time to learn it, the rewards will reap after a while, you will see. You can use the CUSTOM styles to change whatever you dont like from each style to suit your taste into how you would like the style to sound for you.
Anyhow, the styles of the X1 through an amp sounds like you have a band with you. You cannot beat the guitar strums, choirs, realistic drums & those Latin styles are just so wonderful.
Hear the WK8 but I warn ya, its not in the X1's league either !!!
Good luck, DannyUK
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#137852 - 05/04/00 09:04 AM
Re: Solton X1HD and case with extras for sale
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
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I would like to echo everything Danny has been telling you. My opinion is also based on my experience with all the keyboards you are mentioning. I sell the X1, the WK8, the PSR9000 and also the Korg i30 and the Roland EM2000 which are also in the catagory of the others. All these keyboards are very good, but as Danny has stated, the styles in the X1 are just plain great!.. All the others sound more keyboard like, but the X1 sounds more like a real live band. You might like some sounds in other keyboards better, and that would be your choice to make, but the styles are what sell the X1. Also, as Danny has suggested, turn off or go to the arranger function button where you can not only turn off any of the many style tracks you don't want to hear or change the instruments to any sound you want and store them in the style/custom locations (200 of these may be stored). I have played and played the PSR9000 and PSR740 styles for hours and hours in my store, and as I have posted on this forum before, these styles still sound like all the Yamaha keyboards have for the past several years. There is nothing wrong with this, and for many players it is exactly what they want, but I am always listening for something fresh and new and especially authentic sounding for certain styles, and my opinion is that the X1 has not been matched by anyone to this date. I really hope someone else does soon, because this is what drives our market and makes it more and more exciting to be a musician in these fast changing times. To comment on the WK8 for a moment, you will find that it's interface is very confusing for the first time to generalmusic users. There are many buttons to push in order to change a sound, and if you are not careful, you find that when you think you are changing lets say an upper 1 sound, you are in the upper 2 sound instead, and so you are changing the wrong sound. This is a very common mistake made on the WK series of keyboards. The styles are very good and the sounds are good, but not great. This is a keyboard designed in 1996 by generalmusic (the WK4) and has been around a pretty long time. Generally, we see changes made every 2 -3 years in our industry. There are things I would really like to see improved on the WK line. The most important being the ability to play songs directly off the floppy or hard drive without having to wait to load. This is the only keyboard in it's catagory that can't play direct from disk. In a live application this takes to long if you are playing a song and your audience calls out for another. In all other keyboards it only takes a matter of seconds to find another, and in the case of the Solton X1, you can be playing a song and finding another while still playing the first. Also in Solton, you can be playing a song on the keyboard using a style, and if you select single Registration mode, and have made hundreds or thousands of different registrations and saved them in a folder on your hardrive, you could call up any of these registrations while playing another, and at the beginning of the next measure you would have your new registration. Most of my customers are now using this feature when playing live, but never knew this feature even existed until I explained it to them. I hope you make a wise choice and I agree with Danny that you give any keyboard you try a fair chance. George Kaye Kaye's Music Scene Reseda, California
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George Kaye Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years) West Hills, California (Retired 2021)
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