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#135400 - 01/12/07 06:21 AM
Re: New Yamaha MM6 (might have arranger features!)
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That's not true Ian. Most synth players like to have their sounds stored (in their synth). We use the computer (if our synths have voice editor software) for backup.
The MM6 doesn't appear to have room for user sounds (within the unit), and having to use a computer would "totally" defeat the portability issue for this synth. Even if one was to use a software application for editing the internal Rom, it's pointless really because you can't unplug the synth and take those "user sounds" with you.
[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 01-12-2007).]
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#135402 - 01/12/07 06:38 AM
Re: New Yamaha MM6 (might have arranger features!)
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Nope! With 32 note poly, no room for user sounds.... No winner in my book. A synth that in todays market that doesn't let you store your user sounds is pointless IMO. Then to top that off by choking the unit on 32 note poly with a synth engine based on another synth that also choked on it's limited 62 note poly.... I'll pass.
That's why I no longer own the MO-8. ES based sound engine that was choking on 64 note poly. Blowing the poly on that took no effort.
[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 01-12-2007).]
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#135404 - 01/12/07 07:19 AM
Re: New Yamaha MM6 (might have arranger features!)
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Yes I do and glad you asked! I still have my Roland RS-70 that has 64 note poly. Note drops aren't a big issue with the RS-70 because the RS-70 (like the Korg TR) for example have 2 element voice engines. A two element voice engine with 64 note poly is good. Now there are those "few" voices on the RS-70 that "are not" designed for use in a mix (the manual even states this) because the poly count per note is quite large. Some of the RS's voices can use I think up to 8 notes. Those sound are for live use.
Now 64 voices with a 4 element structure that is what's found on the MO-8 is just bad: Once you start to sequence, then add the arps, and use of sustain pedal into that mix and BOOM! Poly is GONE WITH THE WIND my friend.
Now Roland has one GREAT feature that I have been after Yammie about for years. Roland has a feature called "Voice Reserve". In a mix you can manually set the poly limit of each track/part to avoid note drops.
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#135405 - 01/12/07 07:32 AM
Re: New Yamaha MM6 (might have arranger features!)
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The RS-70 seems to be the ideal keyboard for you.
The last Roland synth I had(excluding arrangers) was a Jupiter-8, which I sold several years ago.
No Midi(although there was a retrofit available)no velocity, after-touch, and only 8 note poly at max, but it had a sound that the newer synths can only dream about. It had a terrific arpeggiator as well, although a bit basic by today's standards.
Roland always did the the synth thingy in great style.
Ian
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#135407 - 01/12/07 07:57 AM
Re: New Yamaha MM6 (might have arranger features!)
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The DX-7 was cool.
I had a Mark 1 and was a little frustrated with the MIDI which was limited.
I ended up with a Mark II with the Grey Matter E! chip installed which improved the already great MIDI specs, and also added a sequencer and multitimbral capability.
The Korg M1 was nice, and I did play a Wavestation for several months, which was way cool.
Worst synth I had, was a Polymoog...great sound but totally unreliable.
When I got out of the recording thing, I bought a PSR-8000 with enhanced sampling memory and sold all the old gear, but not before sampling the sounds I used the most.
Now all I need is the PSR-3000.
Ian
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