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#132254 - 09/11/07 03:27 PM
Re: New TY2 Guy
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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I also gig several times a week with my Tyros2, but have to concur with Diki on this one.
It doesn't make business sense to buy two of ANY keyboard, especially one that's expensive. Remember, there's equal chance the PA or mic might blow, the keyboard stand might collapse, or the gig venue power fuses blow. Does that mean we should buy TWO of all those as well, and how does that solve the problem if it happens ON the gig? I'm certainly not going to transport EVERYTHING in duplicate to every gig.
I think flexibility is what's really called for. Though (in nearly 2 years) I've not experienced a Tyros2 breakdown, I've still got my core backing tracks stored on my iPod allowing me to simply take my old Roland A33 controler & Alesis piano sound module if if that scenario ever comes up. That said, because of my own absent mindedness on the very rare occasion of simply forgetting to bring a key component (aka: KB/PA power cord, cable, etc) to the gig, I've had to simply play the acoustic piano, yet still gave the audience a very good time. In our excitement about the latest keyboards & features, let's not lose track of this fact: It's really about what we're able to deliver & entertain from our heart, and less about the actual keyboard/instrument used. - Scott
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#132256 - 09/11/07 03:49 PM
Re: New TY2 Guy
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15594
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Diki, Nursing homes, assisted living centers, retirement communities, etc., pay from $100 to $125 an hour, and a few pay $150 an hour in this part of the world. That's one heck of a lot more than the average nite-club, bar and upscale restaurant pay in most areas of the U.S.. Those of us that have been in this business for a considerable number of years are more than happy to give the smoke-filled, low-paying bars, etc.. to the youngsters that don't mind working all night for the same amount of money we get for an hours work. And, the referals from the nursing homes for high paying private parties is outstanding. We have a great group of performers in the mid-Atlantic region, many of which are more than willing to help each other out when things go awry. We frequently refer each other to new venues, and have no problem loaning our backup equipment to friends in need. Backup gear is very important to those of us who perform daily for a living. Just think of how much money you would loose if your keyboard was sitting in a repair facility for 6 weeks or more, then the cost of a backup seems miniscule. Jim is an excellent performer, can really make his sax wail, and his keyboard skills are second to none. I am proud to have him as a friend. Cheers, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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#132262 - 09/11/07 06:13 PM
Re: New TY2 Guy
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by Diki:
I'll probably start doing them when I'm a bit older and fit in (plus they'll want to hear seventies stuff by them!) but for now, I don't mind playing the regular venues for the pittance I get. Diki, hmmm I had thought we were fairly close in age. Nonetheless, don't under estimate the satisfaction of performing for seniors. Most I play for weren't that old in the 70's so recognize & appreciate many tunes from that golden era, as long as it isn't acid hard rock.  They also appreciate younger entertainers who can play & appreciate the stuff they like and to hear more current material as well . . . afterall, they watch TV, and are exposed to current music thru their grandkids, so playing current songs keeps helps them feel like their keeping up with current trends. - Scott Originally posted by Dnj: Scott what does a top dog pro like yourself get in your area for a 1hr show?
Donny, I'm rather surprised to get this question from you, of all people here, especially because I realize you're perhaps the leading advocate of not divulging business or $ rates here. That said, a nursing home & retirement community pay scale will vary greatly depending on clientle and level of service (ranging from medicare subsidized to the wealthiest private institutions). Some are even able to feature top tier Vegas/Broadway entertainment stars, so pay is always commensurate to budget and clientle entertainment level demand. - Scott
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#132263 - 09/11/07 07:49 PM
Re: New TY2 Guy
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14506
Loc: NW Florida
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Well, Scott, I realize that things are not ENTIRELY standards driven at nursing homes, but you probably have to admit it is the meat of the repertoire for those venues. And not that I mind playing that kind of material (far from it, in fact, I might investigate the area just to get to play that stuff from time to time), but my tastes run quite a range (probably more than they'd like!) and on the whole, I think I prefer playing to people younger than me, not older! (I'm a very young 51!). I still work primarily with younger acts in the studio, and just feel I have a little more to offer the younger listener (at least, younger than nursing homes!), that's all. Plus, I live in a VERY small town, that is resort orientated. My area of Florida isn't as much of a retirement community as places further south, so the market is tighter, and harder to get the doubles and triples that make it so financially rewarding to those that work it. A nice metropolitan area probably has dozens of upscale retirement homes, but they are scarce around here... I have NO problem with any that do make a living doing those gigs, more strength to you all, say I... It's just that I don't see myself there for a while, yet! I wonder what retirement gigs will be like in twenty years...? 'Play 'Cop Killer' one more time, sonny!' 'Do you know 'I want to sex you up'?' 'Play that Beastie Boys medley one more time, bi-atchhh!' 
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