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#120448 - 09/10/07 10:16 AM
Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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One cool thing about recording our performances is the ability to go back and hear how we've changed (hopefully for the better, heehee) in our playing style and ability, as I see music as a lifelong path of continuing discovery & development. Thanks to those who replied for the comments along the way. Originally posted by zuki: The vocal harmonizer sounded very good, especially in Crazy Love. QUESTION: Is the vocal harmonizer in the S900 the same as in the T2? Reply posted by Dnj: 3k,tyros,s900 all the same.
Donny . . . Wrong! They are NOT all the same. In addition to minor software programing tweaks made to the Tyros2 VH by Michel Voncken, the Tyros2 vocal harmonizer includes an brand new "VOCAL RANGE" parameter setting not available on Tyros1 or before. There are 3 "Vocal RANGE" settings to choose from: 1) Upper (high) 2) Normal(norm) 3) Lower (low) The "NORMAL" setting is a 'compromise setting' to accomodate BOTH male & female voices, "UPPER" setting specifically targeted for female voices, and the "LOWER" setting specifically targeted for optimizing VH tracking for lower (baritone/bass) voices like myself. The Yamaha S900 now incorporate this important feature as well, providing better VH tracking & improved Vocal harmony results.  Scott [This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 09-10-2007).]
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#120455 - 09/10/07 12:57 PM
Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by Dnj: No Comment....Vocaizer is inferior to Roland & Korg & Ketron ... Tc Helicon, Digitech.
The proof is in the pudding just sing thru it. Ok Donny, hmmm.  we're STILL waiting for that Ketron SD1+ demo (live auto accomp arranger playing with vocals) you'd been promising to share with us.  That said, I'm first to concur that Tyros2's built in VH sound quality not on par with dedicated standalone VH harmonizer units from TC Helicon or Digitech, or even the ones included in Roland G70, Ketron SD1+, or Korg PA800, but it certainly (if you simply adjust settings properly) delivers decent sounding results, especially for live gigs, and other than the small anti Yamaha(?) minority here on SZ, I continue to receive nothing but praises from both audience, clients, and fellow pro musician/singers about the sound. Interestingly enough, I also own a standalone vocal harmonizer unit: "TC Helicon VoiceWorks", yet, ever since I've upgraded to Tyros2, no longer have the need to take it on gigs, reserving it primarily for studio work only now. Originally posted by Chris Valenti: Thanks for posting your music Scott. I liked the songs you chose and thought you did a good job. I'm usually not a fan of any harmonizer. However, I thought your voice was a good fit for the one in the Ty2.
Chris, as one who admires your music & respects your musicianship, I value your opinion highly, so especially appreciate your kind words. Thanks. - Scott 
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#120459 - 09/10/07 02:30 PM
Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14508
Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by Dnj: lately posting any music on here just leads to controversy, disingenuous remarks, & what have you....simply not worth it. Posting any written comments seems to get exactly the same results, yet that doesn't stop you in the least... No-one CARES if you sing well or not, or whether you play well or not (at least, no-one who's opinion you give a damn about), these demo requests, JUST LIKE YOURS, are an effort by SZ members to hear how an arranger sounds. NOT YOU... Or do you REALLY need to hear praise for everything you do? ... Didn't think so.... Just put up a short VH demo, for Pete's sake, and quit being so sensitive...
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#120465 - 09/10/07 07:24 PM
Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Registered: 02/13/06
Posts: 59
Loc: St Paul, MN
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My observation is that the General Arranger Keyboard Forum tends to be like a pool hall. Yep, that’s it. There’s certified-grade-A pro’s, self-proclaimed pro’s, wanna-be pro’s, don’t-care-if-they’re-ever pro’s, and glad-to-be-just-plain-amateurs. And the problem is that when we all get ourselves around the same table, they tell us to take a shot, and then when we do, we get re-reminded of our status. Kinda like this: And then we’re reminded of the line from “Music Man”. Yes sir, we got trouble in this town and it starts with a capital “P” and it stands for…. Well, you know. I’ve tried using the “Think system” to learn to play my arranger too, but it don’t work like it did in the musical. Maybe we can all use the “Think system” to make this board a friendlier kinda place. R/I
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#120467 - 09/10/07 08:04 PM
Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by BEBOP: We just returned from a week across the road and over the ridge from the 50,000 acre fire in Coe State Park. We were in the motorhome celebrating our 32nd wedding anniversary at Casa De Fruta RV Park Hi Bebop, been monitoring the terrible devastating 47,760 acre " Lick Fire " on the news. Relieved to hear it's nearly fully contained. Happy 32nd anniversary to you and Jann both. Ok, did Rocky bake you guys a cake?  I trust you're continuing to enjoy your Roland E80. Looking forward to hearing another song from you recorded on it. Thanks for listening my songs again. - Scott Originally posted by mikey_maestro: great job scott!!!!
Thanks for the telephone call. Enjoyed the chat. Trust you're all back to normal now following the trauma of wisdom teeth (all 4 at once  ) extraction. - Scott Originally posted by Diki: these demo requests are an effort by SZ members to hear how an arranger sounds. NOT YOU...
Diki & Nigel: Though 'some' member's only interest in hearing fella member's songs may be merely hearing what the 'keyboard sounds like', there are others (like me) who are far more interested in the actual music, irregardless of which brand/model keyboard played on. I had hoped this forum to be about arranger keyboardists sharing their music, and wanting to become better arranger keyboard musicians, without regard to brand/model, but it's obviously remained an never ending pool hall competition of Egos (as Rejected so well pointed out) of simply bragging : " my keyboard's better than yours". Unfortunately for me, the PRIMARY goal & interest of some synthzone members here is merely to create drama & chaos, NOT music.  Scott
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