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#120439 - 09/09/07 03:53 PM Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
Scottyee Offline
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Wow! Hard to believe it, but I've owned my Tyros2 for nearly 2 years now, so thought it an opportunity to retrospectively listen to some of the songs I've recorded with it over this 2 year period.

All songs were performed (played & sung) LIVE in auto accompaniment mode, & simply recorded directly to the T2 HD (utilizing the keyboard's built in audio recorder), with no overdubbing, multi-tracking, or post processing, and simply utilized Tyros2's internal microphone input and built in vocal harmonizer. All songs converted to Windows Media Audio (WMA):

You Don't Know Me (Nov 2005)

Nine Million Bicycles In Beijing (Dec 2005)

Corovado (May 2006)

Come Running (June 2006)

Crazy Love (June 2006)

Danny Boy (March 2007)

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#120440 - 09/09/07 05:19 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
J. Larry Offline
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Scott:
Thanks for posting your tunes. I do 3 of the six. Two I'd never heard before. Danny Boy seemed to have the clearest overall sound coming through my speaker system.

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#120441 - 09/09/07 07:58 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Hi Scott - it's great to hear the variety of your playing and singing again on SZ. I hadn't heard you do Corcovado before, and really enjoyed the smooth sounds of your guitar and keyboard on that song.

Keep up the great work!

Randy
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#120442 - 09/09/07 08:35 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Enjoy your work. Thanks for sharing.

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#120443 - 09/09/07 08:52 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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you are a highly attractive man Scotty
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#120444 - 09/10/07 05:20 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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The vocal harmonizer sounded very good, especially in Crazy Love.

QUESTION: Is the vocal harmonizer in the S900 the same as in the T2?

Thanks,
zuki
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#120445 - 09/10/07 06:39 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
QUESTION: Is the vocal harmonizer in the S900 the same as in the T2?


3k,tyros,s900 all the same.

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#120446 - 09/10/07 07:36 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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"Crazy Love" is a favorite song of mine and it was enjoyable to hear your rendition. I haven't found a good midi file of this to use, but your recording has given me hope of creating an arranger/midi version. If I ever do make that recording, I'll share it with you. Good job, Scott.
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#120447 - 09/10/07 07:43 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
ianmcnll Offline
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Hi Scott,

Super stuff, my friend.

You sure get the most out of the vocal harmonizer...sounds awesome.

My favorite tune has to be "You Don't Know Me".

Thanks for sharing and Happy Anniversary.

Ian
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#120448 - 09/10/07 10:16 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
Scottyee Offline
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One cool thing about recording our performances is the ability to go back and hear how we've changed (hopefully for the better, heehee) in our playing style and ability, as I see music as a lifelong path of continuing discovery & development. Thanks to those who replied for the comments along the way.

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Originally posted by zuki:
The vocal harmonizer sounded very good, especially in Crazy Love. QUESTION: Is the vocal harmonizer in the S900 the same as in the T2?


Quote:
Reply posted by Dnj:
3k,tyros,s900 all the same.


Donny . . . Wrong!

They are NOT all the same. In addition to minor software programing tweaks made to the Tyros2 VH by Michel Voncken, the Tyros2 vocal harmonizer includes an brand new "VOCAL RANGE" parameter setting not available on Tyros1 or before. There are 3 "Vocal RANGE" settings to choose from:

1) Upper (high)
2) Normal(norm)
3) Lower (low)

The "NORMAL" setting is a 'compromise setting' to accomodate BOTH male & female voices, "UPPER" setting specifically targeted for female voices, and the "LOWER" setting specifically targeted for optimizing VH tracking for lower (baritone/bass) voices like myself.

The Yamaha S900 now incorporate this important feature as well, providing better VH tracking & improved Vocal harmony results.

Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 09-10-2007).]
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#120449 - 09/10/07 10:31 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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No Comment....Vocaizer is inferior to Roland & Korg & Ketron ...
Tc Helicon, Digitech

The proof is in the pudding just sing thru it.



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#120450 - 09/10/07 10:34 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
ianmcnll Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Both the Yamaha S900 & S700 now incorporate this important feature as well, providing improved VH tracking & much improved Vocal harmony results.
Scott


Scott,

Just a little correction...the PSR-S700 does not have vocal harmony.

Ian
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#120451 - 09/10/07 10:41 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Just a little correction...the PSR-S700 does not have vocal harmony.


Oops! , you're RIGHT Ian!

Scott
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#120452 - 09/10/07 11:50 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
No Comment....Vocaizer is inferior to Roland & Korg & Ketron ...
Tc Helicon, Digitech

The proof is in the pudding just sing thru it.

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-10-2007).]



Donny....In all fairness, please post something you have done through your Ketron or Roland for a comparison.....I have nothing to compare Scots songs with and must say they sound good to me with the VH, even though I'm not a fan of the VH....give us your take on it all with your tunes.....thanks....TR

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#120453 - 09/10/07 11:54 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
ianmcnll Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Rome:

Donny....In all fairness, please post something you have done through your Ketron or Roland for a comparison.....I have nothing to compare Scots songs with and must say they sound good to me with the VH, even though I'm not a fan of the VH....give us your take on it all with your tunes.....thanks....TR



Great suggestion, Tony...I would like to hear something from the Ketron stable as well.

Ian
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#120454 - 09/10/07 12:26 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
Chris Valenti Offline
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Thanks for posting your music Scott. I liked the songs you chose and thought you did a good job. I'm usually not a fan of any harmonizer. However, I thought your voice was a good fit for the one in the Ty2.

Take care,

Chris


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#120455 - 09/10/07 12:57 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
No Comment....Vocaizer is inferior to Roland & Korg & Ketron ... Tc Helicon, Digitech.

The proof is in the pudding just sing thru it.


Ok Donny, hmmm. we're STILL waiting for that Ketron SD1+ demo (live auto accomp arranger playing with vocals) you'd been promising to share with us.

That said, I'm first to concur that Tyros2's built in VH sound quality not on par with dedicated standalone VH harmonizer units from TC Helicon or Digitech, or even the ones included in Roland G70, Ketron SD1+, or Korg PA800, but it certainly (if you simply adjust settings properly) delivers decent sounding results, especially for live gigs, and other than the small anti Yamaha(?) minority here on SZ, I continue to receive nothing but praises from both audience, clients, and fellow pro musician/singers about the sound. Interestingly enough, I also own a standalone vocal harmonizer unit: "TC Helicon VoiceWorks", yet, ever since I've upgraded to Tyros2, no longer have the need to take it on gigs, reserving it primarily for studio work only now.


Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Valenti:
Thanks for posting your music Scott. I liked the songs you chose and thought you did a good job. I'm usually not a fan of any harmonizer. However, I thought your voice was a good fit for the one in the Ty2.


Chris, as one who admires your music & respects your musicianship, I value your opinion highly, so especially appreciate your kind words. Thanks. - Scott
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#120456 - 09/10/07 02:10 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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I just played these tunes again as I haven't heard some for awhile. I enjoyed them all. YOu really do fine work. I am happy you are one of us and allways willing to share.
We just returned from a week across the road and over the ridge from the 50,000 acre fire in Coe State Park. We were in the motorhome celebrating our 32nd wedding anniversary at Casa De Fruta RV Park, sharing space with firemen, fire engines, helicopeters, and support people at 106 degrees one day and no power for our air conditioners and no water one day because the fire took it all. It is good to be back to civilization and hearing good music again from one of our best performers.
thanks Scott for sharing,
Bebop
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#120457 - 09/10/07 02:18 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Scott ....
I guess you'll have to wait for the next acquisition if at all....lately posting any music on here just leads to controversy, disingenuous remarks, & what have you....simply not worth it.

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#120458 - 09/10/07 02:18 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Great suggestion, Tony...I would like to hear something from the Ketron stable as well.

Ian



Not going to happen.......he has it all boxed up, ready for sale

zuki
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#120459 - 09/10/07 02:30 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
lately posting any music on here just leads to controversy, disingenuous remarks, & what have you....simply not worth it.


Posting any written comments seems to get exactly the same results, yet that doesn't stop you in the least...

No-one CARES if you sing well or not, or whether you play well or not (at least, no-one who's opinion you give a damn about), these demo requests, JUST LIKE YOURS, are an effort by SZ members to hear how an arranger sounds. NOT YOU...

Or do you REALLY need to hear praise for everything you do? ... Didn't think so.... Just put up a short VH demo, for Pete's sake, and quit being so sensitive...
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#120460 - 09/10/07 03:21 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
these demo requests are an effort by SZ members to hear how an arranger sounds. NOT YOU...


I absolutely agree !!!!

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#120461 - 09/10/07 06:06 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Thanx for the varification boyz

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#120462 - 09/10/07 06:22 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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great job scott!!!!

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#120463 - 09/10/07 06:54 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Will someone PLEASE enlighten me and tell me just what the hell is going on....is there something I didn't read or see....has something been deleted .....knock it off....
TR

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#120464 - 09/10/07 07:07 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Hey Donny that didn't mean we wanted you to remove the link to your MP3. It simply mean't that the focus is more on the arranger keyboard itself. Of course the performer is always going to feature using the board, just that discussion doesn't need to get hung up on the performance.

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#120465 - 09/10/07 07:24 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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My observation is that the General Arranger Keyboard Forum tends to be like a pool hall. Yep, that’s it. There’s certified-grade-A pro’s, self-proclaimed pro’s, wanna-be pro’s, don’t-care-if-they’re-ever pro’s, and glad-to-be-just-plain-amateurs. And the problem is that when we all get ourselves around the same table, they tell us to take a shot, and then when we do, we get re-reminded of our status. Kinda like this:



And then we’re reminded of the line from “Music Man”. Yes sir, we got trouble in this town and it starts with a capital “P” and it stands for…. Well, you know.

I’ve tried using the “Think system” to learn to play my arranger too, but it don’t work like it did in the musical. Maybe we can all use the “Think system” to make this board a friendlier kinda place.

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#120466 - 09/10/07 07:54 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nigel:
Hey Donny that didn't mean we wanted you to remove the link to your MP3. It simply mean't that the focus is more on the arranger keyboard itself. Of course the performer is always going to feature using the board, just that discussion doesn't need to get hung up on the performance.



Nigel....maybe I took it the wrong way ...
I apologize for that.

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#120467 - 09/10/07 08:04 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by BEBOP:
We just returned from a week across the road and over the ridge from the 50,000 acre fire in Coe State Park. We were in the motorhome celebrating our 32nd wedding anniversary at Casa De Fruta RV Park


Hi Bebop, been monitoring the terrible devastating 47,760 acre " Lick Fire " on the news. Relieved to hear it's nearly fully contained. Happy 32nd anniversary to you and Jann both. Ok, did Rocky bake you guys a cake? I trust you're continuing to enjoy your Roland E80. Looking forward to hearing another song from you recorded on it. Thanks for listening my songs again. - Scott

Quote:
Originally posted by mikey_maestro:
great job scott!!!!


Thanks for the telephone call. Enjoyed the chat. Trust you're all back to normal now following the trauma of wisdom teeth (all 4 at once ) extraction. - Scott

Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
these demo requests are an effort by SZ members to hear how an arranger sounds. NOT YOU...


Diki & Nigel: Though 'some' member's only interest in hearing fella member's songs may be merely hearing what the 'keyboard sounds like', there are others (like me) who are far more interested in the actual music, irregardless of which brand/model keyboard played on. I had hoped this forum to be about arranger keyboardists sharing their music, and wanting to become better arranger keyboard musicians, without regard to brand/model, but it's obviously remained an never ending pool hall competition of Egos (as Rejected so well pointed out) of simply bragging : " my keyboard's better than yours". Unfortunately for me, the PRIMARY goal & interest of some synthzone members here is merely to create drama & chaos, NOT music.

Scott
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#120468 - 09/10/07 08:19 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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i've still got my sd1+ so i might knock together a few recordings with the harmonizer, i use it with eagles,ccr and a few country tunes..when i get time ill do some..its just where exactly to post them as SZ has no hosting facilities.
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#120469 - 09/10/07 10:29 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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I've just had to waste my time deleting stupid crap ... don't even think about making me do it again.

And don't respond to this posting or I'll simply close the thread. You can of course continue the thread.


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#120470 - 09/11/07 07:18 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by miden:
its just where exactly to post them as SZ has no hosting facilities.


Dennis, here hare 2 popular free hosting sites I recommend:
http://box.net/
http://www.4shared.com/

Scott
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#120471 - 09/11/07 09:52 AM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Also google and yahoo and even hotmail spaces gives you web space (free) to develop your own site. You don't need to create a page you can store files there and link to them. And most often your own isp gives you space for a page.
I'm sure there are many more free ones those are just some of the ones I have used.
I sometimes have trouble downloading from some of the sites like http://box.net/
http://www.4shared.com/




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#120472 - 09/11/07 12:54 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Quote:
Originally posted by mikeathome1:
I sometimes have trouble downloading from some of the sites like http://box.net/ http://www.4shared.com/


I especially like BoxNet & 4Shared because the links they provide take the visitor directly to a window which allows easily selecting either 'direct playback' or 'D/L' the song. I personally prefer Boxnet because I experience little/no delay for direct play. Here are 2 member produced songs posted, and how they appear via BoxNet & 4Shared:

Whitchata Lineman, recorded on Yamaha Tyros2 by Craig Eyre

What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Live, performed on Yamaha S900 by Ian Mac Neill

Scott
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#120473 - 09/11/07 12:56 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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If you become a member at http://www.createsongstyles.com/index.php, they can easily host audio files (or anything else) on the site, no download limits or time out periods.

I find it an excellent resource, and is platform agnostic, meaning it doesn't care WHAT type of arranger you've got...
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#120474 - 09/11/07 03:00 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Scott, interesting that you'd post Ian's arrangement of "what are you doing .......". It's one of my favorite songs and one that I've spent years trying to get just the right interpretation for. I currently like the (if you can believe it) Dusty Springfield version, but I've heard some nice interpretations from stylist like Carmen McRea and Shirly Horn.

Don't know why I posted this, I just really like that song. Just proves (for ME) how much better songwriting was in the 'old days'.

chas
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#120475 - 09/11/07 03:23 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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I must agree with you Chas...Dusty Springfield's rendition does it for me, too.

Ian
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#120476 - 09/11/07 03:36 PM Re: Tyros2: a TWO year Song Retrospective
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Shirley Horn's rendition is tops in my book too. Man, do I MISS her. btw: she's another legend that I had the lucky opportunity to see in a small intimate concert venue, sitting 2 feet away from her, and then had the got to spend some time chatting with after her show too. I'll never forget her unassuming manner, especially the way she simply walked on stage with her big red purse under arm, placing in on top of the piano before sitting down to play. That all said, I really enjoy Ian's fine rendition of this classic tune as well. I myself usually do this song for New Year Eve Gigs, simply altering the lyric to: "What Are You Doing The Rest of The Year". - Scott
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