I phoned Yamaha today and they said the PSR3000/1500 will be launched in Europe at the Frankfurt International Music Fair on March 20 and available for purchase shortly thereafter. The estimated delivery would be end April, beginning May.
http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_euro...ic_Fair_2004__/

Jeremy

Thanx for the info ...
I can't wait I want one!!!;D

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www.donnypesce.com

Me too, but we'll just have to wait...

Thanks for the info Jeremy! Not tooooo long to wait then

All the best,
Rich

I was wondering that if the 3k was shown at NAMM a few months ago & its release is a few months away, then why isnt there any Demos, Videos, etc, etc, unless it's still in the prototype stages. Most Kb releases wold already have a "Teaser" demo online somewhere don't you think?

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I agree - I find it strange there isn't more...

My guess is they're waiting until it has been released world-wide...

Jerry.

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We go through this with Yamaha every time. They hype it for months, sometimes a year, before it is finished. When it's ready for us to be beta testers, they will start selling it. Then we'll find the bugs, then they won't fix them anyway.
DonM

oh did I forget the smiley face?

Do you expect some Totaly new Yamaha styles besides the older ones on the 3k? Will you be able to edit features like registrations setups, smf, etc etc thru USB unlike oter units before the 3k?

I would expect some new styles that use the new mega voices on the PSR3000.
Starkeeper

I agree. I am expecting ALL the good features of the Tyros and none of the bad features (like the price.) All wrapped up in a psr2000-esque shell. Ideal.

I don't expect to be able to edit styles/regs via USB. My guess is that USB will be used just to provide external storage.

I thought I read it will have an ethernet port - which suggests it has enough processing power (and software sophistication) to maybe support a limited sort of browser. I haven't read anything, but I'm guessing there will be some internet download site which the keyboard can connect to for downloading free and (undoubtedly) commercial styles, songs etc. Maybe a subscription service makes sense.

Jerry Norbury

Donny,
I have your 3k reserved. You'll have it as soon as anyone in the US. My Yamaha contact came through for me.

Why thank you Dave thats good news for sure can't wait to give it a test drive

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"I would expect some new styles that use the new mega voices on the PSR3000."

When the PSR2100 came out there were a few new styles, but NONE of them used the new voices......................Do they ever learn? Do they really listen?

They don't need to listen because everyone went out and bought it anyway regardless of the new styles or lack of.

They know that they will sell their boards because most of us want the latest and greatest and will keep on trading up and up.

If anyone needs to learn it is the consumer not the manufacturer. You can't blame them either. They will keep on doing just enough to sell that next board and still keep us wanting more. If we as customers learned to vote with our wallets they would change their ways soon enough. BUT I bet we don't learn for a very, very long time.

Just the way of the world. Supply and demand, profit and loss. Not worth getting steamed up about.

In fact I am as guilty as anyone else. I change boards on a whim. Don't really care if I am being fleeced either as long as I get what I want. I'm happy, they are happy it's called capitalism. All part of the game. If you don't want to play then don't pay.

Best wishes
Tony

PS Can't wait to see what the new 3000 is like.

A correction: The PSR2100 has about 20 new styles. These styles do incorporate many of the new voices. The big, big problem is that the old styles - the 160 styles that are from the PSR2000 have the same old voices. I agree with the rest of everyone's gripe about Yamaha.

Does anyone else, by the way, have a problem with how Yamaha has switched the position of the sequencer buttons and the style selection buttons on the PSR3000? I do. On the PSR2100, PSR2000, and PSR740, the style buttons have always been the closest to the keyboard and the sequencer farther away. This is the way it should be. Now with the PSR3000, you have to reach farther away to call up the next style. Definitely a bad design.

Beakybird

In the dealer new product catalog Yamaha sent to dealers Yamaha says that besides all the Tyros styles there will also be some styles specifically geard towards Praise (Church) music.


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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

I've deside that if it sounds even tiny bit better than 2k and is as easy to use, I will get one.

I'm specially looking forward to hear guitars, piano and strings sounds. Styles will be also very interesting to try as there should be Tyros styles + few more.

That's interesting and a welcome addition.
Someone told me that GEM had also introduced some styles along this line.

I have recently connected a PSR2000 here that I have on loan into my surround sound system (Philips) and the sounds are so rich and full. I love the sax...

What do you feel will happen to Tyros prices once the 3000 hits the market? Tumble? I noticed that one online dealer currently has them advertised at $2495 US.

I don't believe the introducton of the 3000 will affect the price of a new Tyros much.
However, the Tyros is certainly nearing the end of it's run, so often Yamaha reduces prices to close out inventory to prepare for the next flagship model.
I expect the 3000 to be a really nice keyboard, but the Tyros offers many things that the 3K will not have, including build quality, key feel, display, hard drive, lighted buttons (I find them very useful in dark environments), more processors for e.q. and effects, etc.
DonM

I predict the new Tyros (Tyros Plus, Tyros II or Tyros B) will have organ modeling (I assume it doesn't have it now). This is a switch in marketing practices. Usually the flag ship has the new technology (ex. mega voices) and the next release has that technology moved down to its next lower model (Ex. 2100). The PSR450 has new voices before the PSR550 got them. Hmmmmm.
Starkeeper

Ability to choose silver or black would be nice extra in new Tyros. That would then bring it to lower models too later.

For example I think PSR3000 would look a lot better black..

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http://zleepy.web1000.com


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Black?

Nah. Although I never thought I'd get used to the silver psr2000.

BTW - Yamaha claim to have a special website which opens its doors tomorrow (20th).

Just 1 hour 27 minutes to go then in Amsterdam...

Jeremy

I don't care if it's lime green. I want one anyway!

Jeremy....wheres the new website link?

Where's the site?

Bloody good question. They didn't make it easy or anything but I eventually found it hanging off of the Yamaha UK site: http://messe.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_fair/uk/index.php

And what's the first thing that catches my attention? Well, the site is almost empty and the Music Messe Frankfurt doesn't actually start until 31st March. Great. Just another 10 days then...

Jerry
Amsterdam

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I wonder when the new PSR 3000 will arrive in the USA, awhile back I heard July.

It's sounds great, but I don't know what to do with my current PSR2100. My dealer doesn't want it. He only carries the real small Yamaha keyboards, the PSR 350 was the most he carried. I had ordererd the PSR550 from him and then after a month decided to go for the PSR2100. He was very unhappy about taking the PSR 550 back and I ended up getting a lousy trade. I don't like running ads in newspapers to sell things, don't like strangers knocking on my door, not with all the crazies out there nowadays.

The new styles and the Card sound like enough to be worth upgrading for.

Marilyn

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I sold my 2100 for $900 plus shipping on Ebay in just a couple of days.
There were several other people wanting to buy it.
DonM

I drive about 110km (about 70miles) everytime I need new board or something to it.

Local dealer under 15 min ride did not accept my 2100 order even when I had the money to show. Bastard...

So I went to my old dealer little further away and came home with 2000, big smile and 1/3 of the money still in hand.

I probably would drive even longer if I had to.

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Tony

http://zleepy.web1000.com