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#113461 - 11/09/04 05:03 PM I can't find a good chord progression for...
mikeathome1 Offline
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Just a gigalo, I ain't got nobody, I've got a great midi file I've used power tracks pro to interpet the chords, but they don't sound right, other files I've found on the net and in fake books are too simple and sound nothing like the record.
Anyone out there that plays the song and would like to share the chords I would appreciate it.

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#113462 - 11/09/04 05:38 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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I have a Live demo MP3 on my website of this song ....so does Uncle Dave.....
http://www.donnypesce.com/
http://www.boydsongs.com/

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#113463 - 11/09/04 06:08 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Both versions were great, are you playing them live and would you mind sharing the style and chords.

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#113464 - 11/09/04 06:10 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Mike you got mail

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#113465 - 11/09/04 06:23 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Mike you got mail



Thanks You're the best!

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#113466 - 11/09/04 07:03 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Scottyee Offline
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Donny & Dave,

Just listened to BOTH your (what I assume were) East Coast renditions (?) of "Just A Gigolo". Nice renditions overall, but . .

I couldn't keep from cracking up hearing BOTH you guys pronounce the first 'g' in gigolo as a hard 'g' instead of a 'j'. Sounded more like computer talk: a Gigolo Gigabyte Too much time on the computer perhaps !?

Here on the West Coast, and on all the recordings I've ever heard (from Louis Prima on down the line), the first "G" is pronounced like a "J"".

Dictionary.Com's Pronunciation key for 'gigolo': http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gigolo


Just A Gigolo clip: Nick Carter (Backsreet Boys):

http://audio.cdbaby.com/n/nickcarter-09.mp3

Just A Gigolo clip: Louis Prima Clip:
http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.do....asx?obj=v30219

Wondered if anybody else noticed this as well:

Uncle Dave's rendition: http://www.boydsongs.com/Gigolo.MP3
Donny Pesce's rendition: http://www.donnypesce.com/GigiloDemo.mp3

Scott
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#113467 - 11/09/04 07:10 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Dnj Offline
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Scott, lets hear your version of Gigilo, please post it asap for all of us to listen .......
I'd love to hear you do this song in that West Coast dialect.....Hmmmmmm

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#113468 - 11/09/04 07:25 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Hey guys, I just re-listened to both of your renditions and NOW I do HEAR it as Jigolo, as I would expect. Perhaps my computer speakers (or brain) needed tweaking. I could have sworn I heard a hard G the first time I heard it. Anyway, both of your renditions sound TERRIFIC to my ears now, and won't even attempt to post a version as it couldn't top yours for sure. Bravo guys. - Scott
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#113469 - 11/09/04 08:56 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Wow!
That's the strangest thing - I actually DO hear the hard "G" sound through these tiny pc speakers. I never sang it that way, but it sure does sound weird, now that you mentioned it.
My pronunciation was "jig-a-low". Strange thing, this business of language, huh?
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#113470 - 11/09/04 09:34 PM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Dave, though I'm not positive, I'm really begining to suspect now that the audible G/J difference heard is due to the extreme compression of WAV to MP3 file compression, especially as low as 64 kbps as with the case of yours. On Donny's version (at 128 kbps) the G for J thing appears less noticeable. One time I play it and it clearly sounds like 'j'igolo (as it should) yet the next time I play it, I swear I hear 'G'-igolo. Perhaps all this is not so surprising considering how drastic the compression is when going from uncompressed WAV to MP3 format. Typrically a 40 mg Wav file gets reduced to 4 mg or even less when you go with a 64 kbps MP3 file. You're obviously losing something (more like a LOT!) of audio information along the way. I recommend (if possible) ripping to 128 kbps MP3 (and preferably higher like 192) to more accurately preserve what was intended in the original recording. This turned out to be a very interesting & revealing thread for us I think.

Scott
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#113471 - 11/10/04 05:47 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Tom Cavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 12/06/99
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Scott,

I listened to Uncle Dave's version of the song long ago when he first put it out. It sounds like Jig-a-low to me.

I do however have a Jigabyte of memory on my computer and being Irish I like to dance the Gig.

Tom
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#113472 - 11/10/04 05:55 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
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Registered: 08/31/04
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This is fascinating. So converting wave to mp3 can change the sound of consonants and who knows what else! Maybe this is why Kerry lost? :-)

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#113473 - 11/10/04 06:59 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Scottyee Offline
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Here's an interesting MP3 bit rate chart including 'comparison' sample clips using the song "Smooth", by Santana:
http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art17931.asp

When attempting to rip the highest quality (most accurately reproduced) MP3's possible for playback on my iPod, I use & recommend "Exact Audio Copy" EAC: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ It's better than the rest, and believe it or not, it's 100% free as well.

I rip at 192 kbps as I find this produces the best results with minimum tradeoff in quality vs compression.

Scott
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#113474 - 11/10/04 07:02 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Fran Carango Offline
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I often record my J-1000, and I agree , always use the 192 bitrate..it makes a bij difference..
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#113475 - 11/10/04 07:14 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Exound Offline
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Loc: Hoorn, Netherlands
Fran is it Carango or Caranjo?

Now I know why I can't find my wifes G-spot.

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#113476 - 11/10/04 07:18 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Scottyee Offline
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Exound. That's too funny !
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#113477 - 11/10/04 07:25 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Exound Offline
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Sorry Scot but I could not resist ...lol.

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#113478 - 11/10/04 08:55 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Uncle Dave Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Exound:
Now I know why I can't find my wifes G-spot.


No problem...lots of us here can help you with that.
(kidding, of course)
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#113479 - 11/10/04 10:30 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Exound Offline
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Hahaha I call you when I'm lost.

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#113480 - 11/10/04 10:37 AM Re: I can't find a good chord progression for...
Dnj Offline
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So......Gomer Pyle was always saying
"Wellll JOOOOLLLLLYYY" seargent?

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