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#111607 - 10/30/07 07:53 PM Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
Dnj Offline
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I cant help thinking about that...it really sux......I hope something can be done.
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#111608 - 10/30/07 08:00 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Thanks Donny,
I think I got scammed by KORGMASTER and time will tell. I am sick right now thinking about it. Sold my 900 and had to buy another one last minute because of this crap. Out $1550 but fighting for it right now.

zuki
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#111609 - 10/30/07 10:40 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Who's KORGMASTER? What's going on?

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#111610 - 10/31/07 05:00 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Originally posted by Beakybird:
Who's KORGMASTER? What's going on?

Beakybird



It seems Zuki sold his S900.....then bought a Korg Pa800 & Never recieved it!........then went out & bought another S900 in a rush.......maybe Zuki can shed light on this? Its a bit confusing.
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#111611 - 10/31/07 05:01 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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#111612 - 10/31/07 05:19 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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#111613 - 10/31/07 01:02 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Hi Zuki / Donny,
just got back from vacation, what's going on ??

best wishes
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dnj:
[B]I cant help thinking about that...it really sux
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#111614 - 10/31/07 03:07 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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I hate to be the bringer of bad news, zuki, but here's a warning from Sharp, the administrator over on Irish Acts, concerning this leech in Erie, Pa. It's a pity that your purchase was already under way before this warning appeared.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29076

I really feel for you zuki, and I do hope this can be resolved and that you're able to get your money back.

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#111615 - 10/31/07 05:18 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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This guys address is listed?
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#111616 - 10/31/07 05:21 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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SAFIJA RAKOVIC
548 29TH ST
ERIE, PA 16508
(814) 874-3030

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=Sanel%20Rakovic&state=PA&ref=$ref&se=$se&doby=&city=&name_style=1
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#111617 - 10/31/07 05:22 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Hi all.
DO NOT buy or sell anything to this guy.

Sanel Rakovic
548 West 29TH St
Erie PA 16508
sanelx@yahoo.com
blusa2@gmail.com

And other email addresses probably.
He will even allow you to call him on the phone and he will convince you that he is above board. But be warned, you will be scammed out of your money, or keyboard.

I banned him from KORG Forums already, but he is still out there, and sadly, I received an email today confirming exactly what I thought he was. He scammed a guy out of the price of a Pa800.

So be careful. He is out there, and watching this forum as well as others.

Regards.
Sharp.
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#111618 - 10/31/07 07:08 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Zuki, sorry to hear of the problem you've had with this scammer. Good luck I hope you have some recourse.
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#111619 - 10/31/07 09:19 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Zuki, I hope everything will turn out alright.

What I don't understand is that, if this guy's done it before, how come the authorities haven't gone after him?

Taike
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#111620 - 11/01/07 06:45 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Thanks for your support. He has some time to either send the board or PayPal refund. If not, my brother (lawyer) agreed to work with the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office to go after him.

Please just lay low because this could get ugly. I'll keep you posted.

zuki
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#111621 - 11/01/07 07:50 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
Please just lay low because this could get ugly. I'll keep you posted.

zuki


Zuki do you want me to leave this thread up or would you prefer I remove it? It's your call. Whatever you think will help you sort this out.

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#111622 - 11/02/07 02:16 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Nigel,

Let's keep this thread open until I hear something. I don't want anyone else having to deal with this.

If he does respond, I'll pass that info along too. If he does not, I'll ask you to dump the thread on 11/8, because that's when things will heat up.

Thanks for your help,

zuki
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#111623 - 11/02/07 02:37 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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If I can be of any help, just let me know.
I can probably hook you up with others that where dealing with this guy.

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Hi Nigel.

Sorry, I feel awful for not sharing this information with you before one of your members got stung. I've been watching this guy for a while now, and I knew what he was up to the second he posted images of gear on eBay swiped from one of our members personal website. Just never crossed my mind to share the information with you as we are strictly a KORG community, and Karma Lab would be the next target after ours for people trying to scam KORG users.

Promise I will include you in future if there is anything I think you should know. You can then weight up the information presented and decide yourself what you would like to do as sometimes we move fast due to extensive history we have on known trolls.

Kind Regards.
James.

(aka Sharp)

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#111624 - 11/02/07 04:54 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Since this is drawing a lot of attention and bad publicity for buying on the internet through forums, ebay or something on that order, I thought it wise to mention a few tips that may be scaring off others from using this mode of buying which is great to get good deals.

I have bought and sold a lot of gear through the internet, from forums and ebay mostly. It is perfectly safe if you do your homework.

If you really examine a persons ad or feedback, this can tell you a lot.

The main thing is is to ask for their phone number, then call them, feel them out, and tell them you have a close relative who lives nearby and if they can inspect it before bidding and pick up the product if you win the auction. End of problem.

The other thing, using a postal money order is a good thing. At the outside chance something goes wrong, it becomes a federal offense and the FBI will find them.

I guess PayPal offers some kind of protection. The last time I checked out their terms, which was a couple years ago, I wasn't that impressed, but it's better than nothing.

Hope this all works out for you zuki.

Scott

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#111625 - 11/02/07 04:56 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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OK, no edit feature. I just wanted to add that of course, if they don't respond to your email for their phone number. Don't give them any money.

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#111626 - 11/02/07 05:11 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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And don't forget what your mama told you about if it sounds too good to be true.........
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#111627 - 11/02/07 05:21 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Originally posted by mikeathome1:
And don't forget what your mama told you about if it sounds too good to be true.........


lol

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#111628 - 11/02/07 08:17 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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from eBay

(APPLIES TO OTHER BRANDS/MODELS AS WELL)

Yamaha Tyros SCAMS - Electronic keyboard buying guide

The Yamaha Tyros scammers are still on Ebay. They are back with the recent release of the Yamaha Tyros 2 keyboard.

Folks, think about it. If you see a brand new keyboard for sale on Ebay with no reserve and listing for 1/10th of its street price ($3500), then do you really think this is legitimate? NO! It's a SCAM! I can't believe folks are still bidding on these! Stop paying for the livelihood of these scammers with your hard-earned money.

Here's the signs to identify scams on any brand of electronic keyboard, including the Yamaha Tyros 2:

The seller has little to no feedback. If you're going to pay thousands of dollars for a keyboard, get someone who has at least 50 feedbacks.

The user is a new Ebay user. Never buy professional music equipment from an Ebay user who signed up within the past 6 months. Ebay scammers start new accounts, do their scamming, then leave that account and start up another Ebay account, leaving you penniless and without a keyboard. Only buy from long-standing Ebay sellers.

There is no reserve on the auction, and the starting bid is much less than the keyboard is worth. Ebay is the place for deals, but think about it: Deals are usually given because an item is used or was released years ago. If you're bidding on a brand new keyboard, and that keyboard model just came out two months ago, how can the seller offer it for a fraction of its value? The truth is, the seller doesn't have a keyboard to sell.

Go back to completed Tyros auctions and compare photos. If your current auction reuses photos from other auctions, it's because the seller has no actual keyboard. Also watch out if the seller uses stock photos. Have the seller send you actual photos of the actual item they are selling.

The seller is not in the U.S. (usually claims to be in Cananda or England) - this way the seller doesn't have to register a US mailing address with Ebay.

The listing has no specific details on that particular keyboard - only a general product description is included.

Any vagueness about payment details (such as requiring the winnning bidder to contact the seller to work out payment arrangements). Do you know why they're vague? Because if they put their contact/payment info down in the auction, they can be tracked down! Since they're scammers, they're trying to be as elusive as possible!

NEVER bid on any auction where you don't see the Paypal logo!!! If the seller doesn't take Paypal, then FORGET IT! Any legitimate seller will accept Paypal. Using Paypal gives the buyer protection. Other forms of payment do not.

Never ever use Western Union or money order to pay for a Tyros keyboard. This is just stupid. It's throwing your money into a black hole with no way to recover it or track it. There's no excuse in 2006 A.D. for a seller to not accept Paypal. Think about it! The reason they don't accept Paypal is BECAUSE THEY ARE A SCAMMER! Don't Get SCAMMED!
Fred from Renton, WA notes some other symptoms you can use to identify Tyros Ebay scams. Thanks, Fred!

The auction is usually short, like 1 to 2 days.
The seller wants direct contact via email outside Ebay.

Look at the seller's other auctions - often the seller is auctioning many high value items and often ALL at the same starting price.

Look for units of currency that do not agree with supposed area of seller or item location.
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#111629 - 11/03/07 09:43 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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When buying from sellers here on Synth Zone and other forums be suspicious of people who have no history on the forums and have only registered simply to post their ad. Not that all these people are scammers but I'd insist on using a service like http://www.escrow.com in cases where you aren't sure. It may cost little more but it will assure you are protected.

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#111630 - 11/09/07 12:42 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Zuki did PayPal offer any hope of recovering your money?

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#111631 - 11/09/07 05:26 AM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Nigel,

You can drop this thread now. The deadline for him to respond to PayPal was yesterday, which he did not.

I see him all over the forums and we have plenty of info to go after him. I'm sick of his little smilie faces. He seems to think he can pull off these scams, but he took up with the wrong person this time.

Thanks for you support and I'll let you know of the outcome.

zuki
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#111632 - 11/09/07 12:06 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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Zuki, it might be a bit late, but as you used Paypal I assume you paid with a credit card, in which case you have up to 30 days after the transaction to simply cancel that payment, sort of like cancelling a cheque. It is an action that credit card companies dont advertise but is available to customers.Works in Australia, and I have no reason to believe the same rules do not apply in other countries. In Australia you actually HAVE to get a special form from the CC company before you can proceed.
Dennis

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#111633 - 11/09/07 01:31 PM Re: Zuki how did you make out with the Pa800 scam?
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I baught a technics k.b on e-bay payed $1,500 U.S A It was junk I returned IT contacted pay pal and received a refund including shipping,baught a pa800 and I also have technics 6500 I will be needing a lot of help with the korg (I don,t find It to be user friendly/// good luck guy I hope you get your money back from that (cheater) princess
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