One of the limitations of using the Registration Memory Bank to store just the voices (custom instrument-voice setups) to be used with any style, is that it isn't possible to store customized 'left voice' settings without saving a 'specific style' as well. Even the PSR2000's Freeze parameter feature can't solve the problem because the 'left voice' is directly linked to the 'style'.

Here's a TRICK I recently discovered which overcomes the problem. I hope you all figure this out from what I'm saying below, because if you can't , I won't answer any emails requesting more detail or clarification. This was originally intended to be a little secret I had planned to 'only' reveal in my upcoming book next year, but since I've discovered a few other secrets along the way , I thought this one might be a little teaser to entice your interest in my book. If you can't figure it out from reading below, you'll just have to wait for the book to come out. Unfortunately I won't have time to start writing it till January 2002.

As I had mentioned earlier, in Registration Memory, the 'left voice' setting is actually stored with the Reg Memory content's 'style' checkbox, not with the Reg Memory contents 'voice' checkbox as you would normally expect. If in Reg Memory Contents, you check the box 'Style', this will not only save the left voice, but will also lock you into hearing the 'one' style which was saved in that reg memory button as well. Since you want to be able to use these custom voice setups for any/all styles, this won't work. If you don't store the style though, you end up not being able to save the custom 'left panel voice' either. Quite a dilemma, right?! That was until . . . I experimented and discovered this terrific solution . . .

In Registration Memory, I save (in Reg Memory Contents) both the 'style' and 'voices' and assign a 'left' part voice for each of the 8 Reg Memories as well. To be able to use these 8 custom voice registrations (including the 8 different left voices) with 'any' style, I first take any style and copy it into the PSR2000's User Style Memory area. I then 'rename' it something like 'blank'. I also recommend turning down the volume of the accomp style part and resaving the style again. Then I go back to the registsration bank and re-save all my custom setups (main,layer,left part) including this new 'blank' titled style. Now, go and DELETE the style named 'blank' completely from the PSR's USER Style Memory.

You can now load ANY style along with the newly created Registration Bank of custom instrument (voice) setups and be able to use all 8 of your custom LEFT voicings as well. How? The Registration Bank looks for the style named 'blank' , can't find it and gives up, letting you load ANY style you want instead, yet still recalls the 8 different LEFT voice part settings you made, as you switch from registration button to reg button.

- Scott http://scottyee.com

I don't need this function, but I am truly amazed at your craftiness, Scott. I want to get an autographed copy of the book, because I know that I will be able to auction it off someday for at least the price I could fetch if I had a bit of Buddy Holly's belly button lint.

Larry

Scott, I tried out your method and it works like a charm. I put a variety of "left hand" voices in the 8 registrations as well as 8 different main and layer voices. Now, if I have freeze off, I can pick any of the 8 left voices, push the freeze button to turn it on and freeze that left hand voice (along with the style), and then pick any of the 8 registrations to go along with it.

I might alter the suggested steps however by adding one more step. After setting up your "Blank" style, save it to floppy. You will need to delete it from registration memory to have this work as Scott suggests. But if you didn't quite get your registration voices right and want to revise them, you'll need that "Blank" style again. In this case, copy it form the floppy to user area, make your changes and save your revised registration, and then delete it from user memory again. You would also need it if you want to make another set of 8 registration buttons with the same properties, but different voice combinations.

Joe, That's RIGHT ! I actually devote an entire floppy diskette just for that 'one' blank titled style. This way I can always quickly locate/load it whenever I want to 'edit' any Reg Memory Banks which require this 'blank' style.

Scott,
I guess I WILL have to buy a PSR 2000 just to be able to take advantage of all those tips!
(...or maybe you could buy a VA 7... )
Keep up the good work!
Andrea

Where do you get these message icons which does not appeare on the reply posting page.
N Aziz

Scott,

May be the PSR 2000 software version is different. No problem on mine.

On my PSR 2000 I have no problem to make Registrations Memory with Left, Layer and Main voice (only) and after use this Regist with several styles. This is, I change from e.g. Regist 1 to Regist 2, without PSR 2000 changes the style, or I change the Style without change the Regist.
For that, only I don't check the box "Style" in Regist Memory Contents.
It works properly.

So I guess the software version it's not the same.

Carlos Rodrigues

Naziz,
once you are in the message reply page, on the left you will find the "smilies legend"; if you click on the link you can learn which letters you have to type to get the corresponding smiley, like:











Are you still ???
Andrea
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You're lucky Carlos. My keyboard is like Scott's.

Larry

Hi Carlos,

My PSR2000's 'main program' software version reads: 1.00, not 1.10 as yours does. All the other OS version settings are identical to yours. It's now becoming apparent that some (all?) of the PSR2000's sold in the the USA (Uncle Dave's, Don Mason's, Larry
Levin's, and mine) came with an older 'Main Program' version.

It appears that the Memory Registration Bank 'fingering mode' save
issue and "the ability to save the 'left voice' without having to tie
it to a specific style" has been addressed & fixed with Main Program version
1.10.

Now I just need to figure out 'how' I can obtain a copy of your more
recent 1.10 'main program'. Any ideas?

Attention PSR2000 owners! You can all easily check your PSR2000's OS version by pressing/holding C#2, F2, G#2 simultaneously (C#maj triad chord) while turning on the keyboard. Use Tempo + / - and Star/Stop (Accompaniment) buttons to perform the various tests. It will be interesting to get OS version report findings from other PSR2000 owners : Dave Mason, Bluesplayer AJ, Uncle Dave, Beakybird Larry, Joe Waters, Linda Fus, Nobby, Mr Bulk, ohHenry, and other PSR2000 owners out there too.

Carlos' PSR2000 OS version reads:
Main Boot: 1.03
Main Proram 1.10
All others (BMP,Style,etc): 1.00

My PSR2000 OS version reads:
Main Boot: 1.03
Main Proram 1.00
All others (BMP,Style,etc): 1.00

Carlos, MANY thanks for providing the instructions on 'how to' display the PSR2000's OS version.

- Scott

Yes, Carlos. Thank you for the Test tip.

After running the test my PSR2000 shows:

Main boot: 1.03
Main Program: 1:00
All others: 1.00

The specs in my 2000 match yours, Scotty.

I just checked the Versions on my new 2000 and the Main program is 1.20

Regards,

Jerry

Jerry: It's great to hear that you have version 1.20 (main program) on your 2000. I'm wondering 'what' changes are included in your version?

Some of the reported problems (bugs?) in version 1.00 (main program) are:

1) fingering mode not able to be saved in registration memory
2) left voice part is saved in Reg Memory Contents as a'style parameter' instead of 'voice parameter' which effectively won't allow you to create custom 'voice only' Registration Memory setups' which include the left voice.
3) vocal harmonizer: unable to eliminate the 'lead' voice on Karaoke Girl & Speedy Mouse.

I believe (according to Carlos Rodrigues) that #1 and/or #2 was corrected in OS 1.10 (main program). I'm curious to find out if ALL THREE above issues are addressed (corrected) in OS 1.20 (main program).

MORE IMPORTANTLY: I'm wondering 'IF' and 'WHEN' a downloadable version 1.20/1.10 OS update will be made available (by Yamaha) to all us PSR2000 owners who still have the older version 1.00 (main program) in our 2000's. I'm beginning to feel impatient.

- Scott

Scott

I checked the parameters that can be edited under Speedy Mouse.

The Voice parameters are:

Harmony Gender Auto/off
Lead Gender Type Unison/male/female/off
Lead gender depth +/- 63
Lead Pitch Free/correct
Etc........

I don't have a mic hooked up to try it out.

Regards,

Jerry

Hi Jerry: In addition to the Speedy Mouse Vocalizer issue (being able to eliminate the lead voice entirely), please checkout (on your 1.20 version PSR2000), the registration memory 'fingering mode' issue as well as 'where' the left voice parameters are stored - in Registration Memory Contents. Anxious to hear your findings. MANY thanks. - Scott

I am a PSR2000 1.03/1.00/1.00 owner as well. Wassup? Are we USA customers second-class owners?

Or are our European brothers the test "guinea pigs"? (if we assume that later editions of keyboard OS's are not always necessarily better)...


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Regards and Aloha,

Charlie
http://artists2.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/Wong_Songs/index-1.html

OK. I hope I can help you guys here with the bug issues! Here goes. I had exchanged my first PSR2000 (thanks again DanO)because is had severe scratches all over it. That one the Main Boot was 1.03 and the Main program was 1.00 as was everything else.

My NEW and not scratched PSR2000 which I just got last week says Main Boot 1.03 and Main Program 1.20 all others are 1.00. I see Jerry has the same version as I do.

I have to say, when I first started playing this one it seemed a bit different in the OS and I can not tell you where yet cause I haven't had time to play with it. (started a new job and am just too tired) just I know some things have changed in comparison to the other version I had. It just seemed different and in a good way ha-ha.

I haven't advanced as far as you guys have in using the OS. So whatever questions or things you want me to try please be very specific so I can get the actions correctly. I will try out what you guys have on here so far and see what I get.

Wonder why they are not releasing these obvious updated versions to everyone? BTW I am from the USA! YEAH!

-Linda

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scottyee:
Now I just need to figure out 'how' I can obtain a copy of your more
recent 1.10 'main program'. Any ideas?
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Sorry, Scott

You'll just have to wait for *my* book to come out for that answer

hehe

bob

Hello 2000 owners, my OS is the same as yours Scott. Keep the great info coming, Thanks. By the way, I see new psr2000 presently at $940.00 on Ebay. It's almost finished.

my psr2000 main program is 1.00, hope can get
an update from yamaha soon.

Just emailed Yamaha requesting an update.

Larry

Hi Larry (Beakybird):
Please keep us posted and let us know when Yamaha provides a response as well as where the OS update will be made available for download. Thanks. - Scott

Wow! Linda, you've got THE most updated OS. I just got my PSR2000 a few weeks ago, and I got OS 1.0 When are we going to hear about updates from Yamaha??
Tom

Well, keep in mind folks that the latest OS may not be the most stable OS. Just like OS's on the PC. Seems they started producing the keyboard before the OS completed beta testing for bugs and have updated it as its been going out the door. They should release the latest OS to the dealers for distribution but could be that 1.20 isn't the final release.?

-Linda

-Linda

Scott,
My 2000 is the same version as you have!
Main boot---1.03
Main prog.- 1.00
All other---1.00
Even if I had the chips, there is no one around my neck of the woods to install them.
I could do it myself, but that would wipe out the warranty! So that means sending it in for 6 months!! aaaarh!!
Keep smilin',
Nobby

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