Hi folks,

forget Tyros 2 and SA voices here is the next generation in keyboard:
http://www.tornado-music.de/v10ots.html

And if you are still not convinced check this out:
http://www.tornado-music.de/videomain.html

There you have it.

Eric

Even after watching six of those videos, I have no idea what I am watching... especially since I have to try to work out if what I am listening to is bad technique or bad sound...

You're not serious .... are you ?

This sounds really poor.

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I did actually post this link some time ago and it certainly has potential, particularly as the basic software can be fitted on any reasonably powerful computer for as little as €299, and if you add a couple of €200 Midi keyboards + a Touch screen to cover your existing monitor for about €500 it would certainly give you something to work at.
Unfortunately it uses Creative Sound font Technology that while good in its day is now seriously showing its age, however if you used Soft Synths rather then the internal sounds then it would be worth having a look at.
Point to note, both Wersi with its OAS Instruments and Lionstracs with its Mediastation have been using computer based software instruments for some time, (In the case of Wersi this has been since the year 2000) but unlike the Tornado Software both use High End 32 bit DSP Processing Cards, to allow the use of 24 bit sampling, as well as Giga Samples, VST Instruments and with Wersi, Akai Samples.
Who knows what Sound Engine Tornado Systems will use in the future though?

Bill

Off Topic

Abacus

Thank you for the input about Wersi and Tornado systems.

I have a Technics FA-1 organ which I thought would be a good canidate for a Wersi expander. Do you have an idea which might be the most cost effective way of acheiving this?

Any othe comments are fully welcome

Last but not least I thought the organs on the Demo were pretty decent and were certainly more pop & theatre oriented rather then Jazz or typical B3

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Eric,

I want one too! I know you can read the language of the web site. What exactly are we looking at?

Tom

Tom

If what you are referring to is Language I beleive its German. My brouser can translate language for me so that's kind of cool.

Jerry



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Jerry,

Eric can translate. He is an expert in both German and English. Also, I just want the Readers Digest version.

Tom

Hi Guys,

of course I ment it as a joke
Here is the webside: http://www.tornado-music.de/

It doesn't say much except that it is an extension KB called Venus by Wersi, I believe, with 61 light wheighted keys, about 1 meter width = approx. 3 feet, with 8.4" touch sensitive TFT-screen.

You can also get it with 88 keys.

Eric

Actually the keyboards are standard Midi Keyboards stuck in to a cabinet with a 15” Touch sensitive computer monitor stuck behind, and which any one with moderate diy skills could make.
The only similarity with Wersi is that they both use software for operations, and run on a Windows PC. The Wersi however is a fully integrated unit with custom cabinets to contain all the items, plus a vastly superior sound engine, and of which at present Tornado systems can only dream.

Bill

Wersi EX1 Expander would work with your FA1 providing it has a Midi out and a sound input. (Unless you use a separate speaker and mixer system)
Please remember that the picture you see is just the slim control panel that can be mounted anywhere, the main expander box normally being put to the side of your instrument, it is also available in various finishes to match your instrument.
If you have any more questions just post and I will see if I can answer them.
If you have Skype you can give me a call, my Skype name is: abacusks1
Hope this helps.

Bill

Bill,

I do not have Skype but I do have Packet 8 which alows me to call free in the US and next to nothing internationally.

MY FA1 is midi equiped with a pretty good degree of flexabilty. These were pretty modern and full fetured organs.

I believe the the Wersi EX-1 is a computer based unit. So thinking if it's possible to use some of my own hardware. Does the EX-1 compare feature and sound wise to the Abacus? I have a feeling these are pretty expensive. In your opinion how would the EX-1 stack up against modern Arrangers and the likes of the Roland Atelier organs. You will have to exuse me a wee bit becaue I am a certified Organ nut.

I am getting ready to go to my annual trade show in Vegas the first of next week so will have my back to the wall for the next few weeks. I wonder if any one on this forum will be entertaining out there. Oh I guess I should try a seperate posting.

Cost wise the tornado software look like it could be a lot of fun but the real details are not on the web sites and it's probably hard to find a user for comments especially a english speaking one.

The Wersi thing has had me doing some serious thinking for quite some time.

Jerry

Hello Jerry
1. Skype is a free download www.skype.com and free calls between computers anywhere in the world or for a small charge to normal landline phones, so if you want to call me after downloading Skype it wont cost you anything. Please bear in mind that I live in the UK, which I think is 7 hours in front of Las Vegas time.
2. The main Midi facilities required to output from your organ are keyboards and pedals, with great benefits if the swell pedal and kick switches also send Midi signals. The EX1 Expander easily handles the rest.
3. The Expander is a 3ghz PC with 1Gb of Ram and 80Gb Hard Drive Standard, and Windows XP (You will not need to have anything to do with the XP operating system, as it becomes invisible when everything is loaded up) and is essentially a Verona Organ (Which in itself is a 2 manual and pedal Abacus) without keys or pedals.
4. Yes they are more expensive then the Norm, but they offer so much more and constantly expandable, plus Major upgrades to a virtually new instrument is normally just by software, which means you will never have to trade it in and buy a new model, which means in the longer term it works out a lot cheaper then other keyboards.
5. If you wish to add additional hardware to the computer, check with Wersi first as the biggest problem with computers, is the incompatibilities that can occur between hardware and software.
An additional point is that in the UK there is a 4 CD set available which explains how to use everything on the instrument of the OAS6 software, with updates for OAS 7 out shortly, (This means you will not have to worry about whether you understand the instructions or not) so it will probably end up as 5 CD set to cover all options. (All Wersi Instruments come with a CD Burner, so you can actually listen to the CDs while you are at the instrument)
Hope this helps.

Bill