Glenn, currently I use the effects in my Mackie CFX12 mixer.. I also have a Digitech workstaion vocalist, the effects are okay but not great..The best outboard effects I have used are the "older" Roland SRV2000 reverb and The DE2500 delay..I still have a Boss SE50 that has some pretty good editable patches[I won't get rid of it, it's like a Swiss Army knife of effects problem solver}..