yes, I had gater also Ron. Although I found 6 of them at once on my PC, Adware got rig of it and it never came back. I didn't install it though. I got it from surfing a site. A few plces have it ready to board your pc from a hidden script of a web page html. Yes kids do install things without asking. That is just gonna happen i guess. Right? ha ha Gator is the most abundant one and most powerful for breaking into and setting itself up on your pc. Gator can be real nasty. My buddy I sopke of twice so far had gator all over his pc. Man! it was in quite a few different folder, When adaware found it that is. But open the folder up that adaware says its in and it is invisible. Without adaware you will never find it, and gator is powerful enough to report back almost every thing you do on your pc. You would be under a watching eye, if you have gator anyone. And next comes the mass flow of email you get. Soon as you change your email if you have gator, it sends the new email right back to gator. It should be illegal for anyone to put gator or any of the other scripts on some one elses pc without asking at least!!! Money talks I guess, and laws change with much delay time when gov. afficials take gifts and money contributions from companies. So gator and others continue to be legal. Isn't that something.