Gary I spent 3 years in country where there was a war. And I don't wish something like that to anyone. I didn't invade other countries and I never will . And going to to the other countries to get rid of their tyrants just to install our own tyrants and to take oil and the other goods while bringing multiple countries to a total end is hardly something to be proud of with someone with any decency or any humanity in them. This only shows we are not any better than those loonies over there . And I guess that is ok too. Lets just not pretend that we are the good guys.

But as long as we can play our arrangers here it's all good. Maybe that is why we send our young boys and girls there to die. All is good.

Tony I totally agree with you. There is a saying" For any man with even a little bit of a brain , a war is already a lost cause."